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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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legit? pulling plugs?!!

so i was at autozone today and i was talking to this guy with an rx7 and i told him how my car smokes at startup but doesn't eat coolant, he sugest that i pull this plug behind my rear speaker and crank the car to clean out thefuel lines. and then plug it back together... i'm not sure what the plug is for... so does anyone know if this works?? and what is that plug? i'm going to try it if theres no hard..
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Ummmmm I think you mean spark plugs? Only necessary if you're flooded. Little does that other rx7 owner know, with every startup 7's smoke.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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um no its like a plastic plugs with wires in it, underneath the rear right speaker in that little dome.. its an 87 n/a btw
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 11:28 PM
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He meant disconnect the fuel pump. It's behind the driver side speaker/shock tower. The only thing this would do is keep the pump from running. This will not stop your car from smoking upon start-up.

Is it gray/blue smoke? How much? A little bit is normal, but not a lot. Chances are your oil control rings are worn. This allows oil to seep into the combustion chamber, and burns off when the car starts.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 01:10 AM
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im going to have to strongly go with acesanugal on this one.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 01:21 AM
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yeah, he assumed you were flooding and the smoke was unburnt gas.

we need more details.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 01:54 AM
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no clue why he told me to do it, my car starts fine just smokes when it does. i guess i'll try it? no harm in trying?
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 02:13 AM
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more like no point in trying.if the car fires/starts everytime whats the point in killing the fuel pump?

back to the wuestion a few posts ago,what colour is the smoke?blueish or white smoke?
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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no clue why he told me to do it, my car starts fine just smokes when it does. i guess i'll try it? no harm in trying?
Disconnecting the fuel pump will do nothing. The car smokes a bit because the oil o-rings are wearing out.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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mmmm smells like bs.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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only thing to do ... pull the egi fuse and unflood it each time .. but no need to do it if your car still starts right up
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Rule #1
Don't talk to people at autozone about rx-7's
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
Rule #1
Don't talk to people at autozone about rx-7's
Agreed. They don't even carry spark plugs for our cars. Not mine anyway... Or brake pads or rotors for the 4-pot brakes... or fuel filters...

Why don't we just bomb the place?
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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I'd expand that lit to Kragens/checkers, winchester auto, Napa and an other corner car store.

The most useless car ppl work there. I'd like to know why people that work at a car parts store are so damn stupid.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenix7
I'd expand that lit to Kragens/checkers, winchester auto, Napa and an other corner car store.

The most useless car ppl work there. I'd like to know why people that work at a car parts store are so damn stupid.

unfortunately i work at one, but i have to agree...every one of my coworkers and competitors at other stores(at least under 40 years of age) are the type of crowd who shouldnt be allowed to even speak on the subject of cars. only listen and sell parts :]
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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i thought so.. but kragens carries our ngk! i was shocked when they gave me a set..i dont know if i should keep driving the car or just let it sit... smoking gets a little worse each time.... on really cold days the engine sounds like its running on partial rotor, until it warms up a bit then it drives/run fine..keep driving it until it doesn't start anymore or stop now while damage is minimal? any tricks i can do to expand the seals? also need new clutch and a new brake booster..
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Acesanugal
Agreed. They don't even carry spark plugs for our cars. Not mine anyway... Or brake pads or rotors for the 4-pot brakes... or fuel filters...

Why don't we just bomb the place?
Unless you get me. I live in Cleveland now and still get people from my old store in Omaha, Nebraska calling me when they get an RX-7 customer with an odd problem.

The main reason why people that work at parts stores don't know much is because there isn't really much training, they expect the people to know about cars. Also, remember its a parts store, we sell parts, not diagnose your problems.

And about spark plugs, up until recently, we didn't carry any NGK plugs to speak of. Now we have a small selection and I've heard rumor that we will be getting some rotary plugs soon, but don't cross your fingers. With the brake parts, if they don't stock it, they can definitely order the parts- same deal with the fuel filter. FYI, if you need front 4pot calipers, you can get a loaded pair for $85 plus a $14 core charge, they come with the hardware and lifetime warranty ceramic Morse pads.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
Rule #1
Don't talk to people at autozone about rx-7's
Or people at NAPA


I once had a guy tell me that he was a rx7 guru and then asked me if i knew how rotary engines worked. After I said yes, he told me a secret trick of his that could keep a rx7 going for another 50,000 miles at least. Because apex seals SHRINK, the engine loses compression, so what he told me to do was put gear old in the tube that connects at the boost pressure sensor and that will make the apex seals expand again.

This was after he told me he had a TII making 500hp at 38psi on stock turbo. After we left I told my friend to never speak with that guy again.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RyosukeD
Or people at NAPA


I once had a guy tell me that he was a rx7 guru and then asked me if i knew how rotary engines worked. After I said yes, he told me a secret trick of his that could keep a rx7 going for another 50,000 miles at least. Because apex seals SHRINK, the engine loses compression, so what he told me to do was put gear old in the tube that connects at the boost pressure sensor and that will make the apex seals expand again.

This was after he told me he had a TII making 500hp at 38psi on stock turbo. After we left I told my friend to never speak with that guy again.
LOL I think that's one of the funniest stories I've heard about the parts stores in a while.
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