nycgps

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Well well, I did search, read about 15 threads, but no one seems to have this issue (or I didn't read enough?)

Turn signal works, lights work.

Right turn signal work and will "return" to netural when Im done with Right turn.

but the Left turn, it flash, it blinks, but it will NOT return to netural position after a Left turn.

Could it be ECU? it shouldn't be.

So it must be the Turn signal switch? anybody had this issue ?

satch

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It can't be the ECU but more likely the "turn cancel sensor." If it is not sensing the movement of the steering wheel properly then the signal will not turn off.

HAILERS

Until someone gives you a straight answer.........................the ECU has nothing to do with canceling turn signals or anything at all to do with turn signals.

The CANCEL part of the turn signals lies in the steering wheel or steering wheel hub. You remove the steering wheel by removing the approx 13/16" nut that holds it on (gotta remove the plastic emblem that says MAZDA first.

So you pull the steering wheel off. Right in the middle you'll see a plastic piece that has nubs on it. The two nubs mate with the holes in the steering wheel opposite them. Make sure those nubs are aligned with the two holes in the steering wheel.

The BODY ELECTRICAL deals with the turn signals cancelation. Give it a read sometime. It's in the FSM BODY ELECTRICAL.

How long has this problem been there? Since you owned the car or?????? before you owned it? or started a couple of weeks ago after you did some work that involved the removal of the steering wheel?

nycgps

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Thx for the reply guys.

The car is been like this since I got it.

so, could the 60-253 piece the cause?

satch

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^^ yes.

Also, after making a left turn if you leave the turn signal lever alone and blinking and make a right turn will it then shut off? If so then it could be a function of the front end being out of alignment or the steering wheel itself was put on wrong which would be easy to verify by driving straight down a road and look to see if the steering wheel is symmetrically positioned or not.

nycgps

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great

Good thing is that Mazda still sell this piece. but to be sure I will take the steering out tomorrow.

Nope. the left turn signal will stay on.

The steering wheel looks pretty straight, I did an alignment about 2 weeks ago so.

I will take it apart tomorrow morning and see what sup.

clokker

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Given the symptoms you describe, no.
All that piece does is connect the wheel to the column mounted sensor...if your signals cancel to the right, it's obviously doing it's job.

satch

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I've only done this once but the thumbnail pic below has a red arrow which points to a small triangle and if I remember correctly this arrow needs to match up with the arrow on the inner ring when the steering wheel is mounted.

EDIT: You might need a steering wheel puller which are usually on loan at your local auto supplier. Pulling the wheel off w/o one might result in a bloody nose.

nycgps

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if its as simple as "just need to match up" then its even better.

cuz ... 60-253 its the only piece Mazda still have in stock or I have to get the whole 66-120 (other parts in the box are no longer avaliable) ...

hmm, will check it quick tomorrow morning and see what happens.

edited : I have a puller, I will see if it works on the steering wheel. if not, I just visit my Autozone. thx will update this post when I pull it out, hope it won't rain tomorrow.

marshall13B

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Let me know if it works, mine does it too, but for both sides. Didn't do it when I had an aftermarked stearingwheel on there with a crappy hub adapter. I meen CRAPPY....

HAILERS

60-253 is the item with the two *tabs* I was trying to describe earlier. They get broken off when the wheel is reinstalled and the 60-253 is not quite aligned with the holes in the wheel.

clokker

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Yeah, but how does that explain proper operation (i.e., cancelling) in one direction but not in the other?

nycgps

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Its raining right now ... as soon as it stops,I will go test the turn angle sensor first.

Rob XX 7

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if one nub broke off and not the other it will work like that, I have the same issue

after a while you just get used to canceling it out yourself, I had too many people say they would remove it for me when parting out a car and not come through so I gave up on it

clokker

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I guess I'm going to pull my steering wheel and take a closer look because right now I don't see how that's possible.

nycgps

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stop raining please ...stop ...

HAILERS

Ok, I could be wrong about the two dogs and one being broken off. I guess if just one is left in place and is located in its hole .........things would work.

So in that case I suggest you look at the ARROW in the jpg and make sure it's located in the right direction. I suspect it is not and is backwards/upside down .

clokker

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Precisely.

I did pull my wheel and confirmed that the intermediate piece (the notorious #60-253) interlocks with a solid ring on the steering wheel sensor...there is no "right" or "left" nub.
As long as one nub locks into the steering wheel and one locks into the sensor it should cancel in both directions.

Sorry, Rob.

Rob XX 7

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I cant believe you went to the trouble to pull off your wheel, lol

Mine might be both directions, I cant even remember anymore?
I have a step van that only cancels in one direction- that could be where the confusion comes in

HAILERS

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Does it not matter that the ARROW heads must be aligned for the cancelation to happen? The arrow head on the part #2 and part #6 in my last post above. I know.........I did not say both arrows had to align with each other. The text does say that though.

Lets' say the original thread owner moves item #2 from where it is to 180* out from that. Then tries to see if the signals cancel both ways now.

I might have to pull my wheel tomorrow. It's only a plastic cap and one 13/16 inch nut and done. Too dark now. Too many mosquitos .

Rob XX 7

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I know I broke something, I did it when I put the wheel on, I heard it happen, if my memory is right it was a clear plastic thing

clokker

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The arrow on the 60-253 thingamabob needs to be lined up at 9 o'clock to match the arrow on the sensor body (wheels in straight ahead position).

Any other orientation and one side will probably not cancel at all and the other side will cancel way too quickly.

HAILERS

Well I have one car that one of the *dogs* is busted off and there is a cancelation problem..........but evidently it's not the broken *dog* but most likely I did not line up the two arrows/matching marks when I reinstalled the wheel. Not the dog for sure 'cause the things going to rotate with but one dog in the house. Must be the marks are not matched up. Gotta fix that............someday.

nycgps

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it was raining like crap today, so I didn't pull the wheel off, instead, I pulled the mouse belt off to fix the beeping **** (to replace the contact plate in the back), the light still blinks tho ... at least it won't beep anymore.

I will see if I can pull the steering off tomorrow.