skatingsamurai

was just wondering if anyone could give me an estimate for the cost of building a s5 tII from the ground up using all brand new (or remaned) parts from the factory. (or aftermarket where applicable) NO im not planning on doing this. i just want to pipe dream and think that one day, i could dump 20k into a 100% brand new fc.

any takers?

i think i would be upwards of 20k but i honestly have no idea.

TitaniumTT

seeing as how with inflation the $20,000 car in 1989 is now ~$36,000 assuming 3% inflation I think you need to start thinking a little more and posting less.

I'm going to say the cost of a Katrina Victims suffereing and throw out $4 Quadrillion

Joking aside -
I was once told by a friend of mine who was incredibly bored one day at the Caddy dealership that he added up over $100,000 in parts and that wasn't including a body. I forgot which model but you get the idea

MmSadda

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I'm pretty sure I saw at one point that it'd cost like $65k to make a new car that retails for $20-25k. I've no real evidence, but basically, it'd be WAY the hell too expensive.

Project88Turbo

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Your best bet for a new FC (not a S5 though) would be to contact Johnyzoom on this board and have a load of $$$$$$.

He's local to me and has a 10th Anniversary with ~7100 miles on it. It still has that new car smell, mmmm brand new 20 year old leather ...drool...

Maybe, one day I can convince to let me drive it and experience how a "NEW" FC drives.

Vince

Black91n/a

There have been a few that have restored FC's, but generally it'll cost probably 3x as much at least to rebuild a car using all new parts. I would not be surprised in the least if it cost $50k to build an all new TII.

skatingsamurai

thats not a new car though, see you still have to consider dry rot and all that other stuff that effects 20year old plastic, rubber, and metal. so yes, it might only have 7000 miles on it but i would imagine it REALLY isnt like anything new.

you know how when you buy a new demister grill, it has that super crisp smell and feel? you can feel its structural integrity and you just know its new. and you know when you have to buy that new pain in the *** engine part that you cant find used? just imagine the whole damn engine looking and smelling like that...mmmm
now thats what im talkin about. sometime i wish i could have been on that production line and see those suckers right as come out of the factory. not a single dirty or old part on it. not one. ...and for the record, i feel like a giant nerd for say that, but **** it. im sure there is someone who feels the same. i mean, come on...to have an rx7 with 0 miles on it? isnt it worth all the suffering people in africa?

Attila the Fun

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In the early 1970s (1972, I think), Car and Driver magazine published an article wherein they totalled up the cost of all the parts in a Chevy Impala, based on a then-current dealer price list. At that time, the Impala could be bought, new, for a little over $5000. The cost of all the parts - after the dealer markup - was over $25,000. Considering the obscene parts prices at my local Mazda dealer, I don't think it would be unreasonable to assume that buying all the parts to assemble a new car would be roughly five times the original selling price of the car.

Aaron Cake

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You won the lottery, and were very bored, then you literally order every part from the Mazda dealership, weld up the body and build the car from scratch. All the sheet metal is available, as well as all the mechanical components so you could build the entire car yourself.

The cost would likely be well over $150,000 considering the individual cost of the components.

In the case of a lottery winner, how about having the unibody recreated in aluminum?

Project88Turbo

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You obviously have never seen this car. It is for all intents and purposes, brand new. Nothing is dirty, nothing is broken or scratched. It has lived its life garaged and car covered.

Consider this: It has traveled the distance of 2 oil changes in 20 years. Thats 350 miles a year, or ~7 miles a week since new. People rack up that many miles in 6 months now....

Vince

farberio

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Obviously. Its not like I see you posting pictures...

Hah! But seriously can you get pics? That sounds like a sweet ride.

To the OP, It actually stinks to be on the line...you get to see a ton of cars and realize that you are 1 of millions...
That and you learn how cars are really built...not that pretty.

skatingsamurai

doesnt matter. its still 20 years old. i want an rx7 thats 20 days old.

TitaniumTT

Then you better start saving your allowance becuase conservatively your fantasy is going to cost well over $100,000. So WHY???????!!!!?!?!?!?!

Here's a thought - RESTORE ONE & even then you're probably looking @ $20-40,000+ to do it right

DeAd-EyE

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^ +1.

buy the absolutly cleanest car you can start with, rustproof the living **** out of it (POR-15, rustbullet, something good), and then replace any of the busted/missing interior/weather stripping pieces (all still available for the mostpart) and give the suspension a once over with new bushings, shocks, springs. and it'll be as good as new, especially if the chassis has low kms.

hell if you're really intrepid, you can put new DTSS bushings in, it ain't cheap, but if you're doing a proper resto, might as well get all the little details down right

restoring an old japanese car is on my list of things to do before an untimely death. i want to own one 100% original Fb, FC, FD and an all mazdaspeed parts tuned FD as well (which according to ramy is going to be just about impossible to do since they discontinued everything and i died a little bit inside). that would be my dream garage.

if the original poster is serious, well, best of luck too ya man. if it's something you want to do, go for it.

cheers

rowtareh?

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1,000,000.00 dollars!





Seriously, you really are living a pipe dream. The only thing worth restoring would be a Cosmo 110s. An FC is a dime a dozen car.

skatingsamurai

bah, fcs are the ****

TehMonkay

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Buy a car with a low amount of rust, and that already has the interior you are looking for. Strip it down to a shell, mediablast and paint everything. Seam weld, stich weld, replace all the bolts and wear items, new engine trans rear end etc.

phoenix7

search for Michael Fregoe. Just ask him for an estimate.

Attila the Fun

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That's so yesterday. Do it in carbon fiber.

JustJeff

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I thought you were leaving the forums for your FSM...or something???

DeAd-EyE

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did a search of his name, yeilded nothing.
who is he?

Aaron Cake

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It's a theoretical discussion. It's doubtful that anyone would ever do something like this, but I think it's all crossed our minds.

Still, there are loads of clean FC bodies around so it would be a bit odd to create one from scratch. The cost of dipping a good body would be far less then welding together sheetmetal purchased from the dealer.

There are so many FCs around that this effort should be saved for the more rare rotary cars anyway. For example, here's my next project, a '76 RX-5 Cosmo:









http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWmHLbUyY0k


Ricer.

DeAd-EyE

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^ damn man...that's going to be one hell of a project. if it turns out anything like ur FC, it'll be insane

2slow4stock

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WoW... Good luck on that build with the Rx-5. Would cost too much money to build an Fc :'(

Black91n/a

http://www.eunos.ca/rx7_restoration.htm

They restored an FC, if you want a new FC maybe talk to them about that car.

Asterisk

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I know, right?