JDM TigerJapanese motor
04-14-11, 10:11 PM
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i used to think Japan2LA was reputable, until he held one of our locals money for 1 1/2 months and never shipped an engine as he said he would(he sent in the paypal claim at the end of the 45 day limit). i would say he has one of the better reputations but there is always going to be bad examples it seems from importers and communication or poor products.
I think both you and Japan2LA may have misunderstood my point of my last post. Either way I assure you I did read the replies - every single one of them in their entirety.
04-15-11, 07:45 PM
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I read the replies quite well. What I said was in reference to your own post on page 1.
I simply stated that although someone may have had a bad experience with Japan2LA, many more can state that they have had positive experiences with him. So in short, I was trying to let people know that may search and come across this thread in the future that Japan2LA seems to be one of, if not the, most reliable source we have for Japanese rotary engines.
I think both you and Japan2LA may have misunderstood my point of my last post. Either way I assure you I did read the replies - every single one of them in their entirety.
I simply stated that although someone may have had a bad experience with Japan2LA, many more can state that they have had positive experiences with him. So in short, I was trying to let people know that may search and come across this thread in the future that Japan2LA seems to be one of, if not the, most reliable source we have for Japanese rotary engines.
I think both you and Japan2LA may have misunderstood my point of my last post. Either way I assure you I did read the replies - every single one of them in their entirety.
My user name is mentioned quite often in this thread.. I wanted to make sure that EVERYONE here on RX7club knows that it was not from me..
I know they sell junk personally
How do I know..... I have been to thier yard in Japan, its very close to where I load my containers.. ( less than 10km away). They buy up alot of standing engines in Japan. 95% of the standing engines are junk. If the engine is already out of the car, I pass on it. They dont... they simply buy whatever is available at the time they are loading thier container. Which means they buy junk, and then pass it off to people here in Canada and the USA.
They price point the stuff cheap, and most people take the bait...
Good luck with this engine you purchased from them... from the exterior pics, looks like you may have made a bad choice to buy from them..
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04-17-11, 07:39 AM
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my motor was purchased from JDM TIGER JAPANESE.... NOT Japan2LA
hope this makes it totally clear to all just incase so please no more arguing
05-06-11, 05:26 PM
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here is some pictures of the torn down engine. keep in mind this engine would have likely never even ran with all the stuck seals and crap that was sitting in this engine. i highly doubt the apex seals would have ever loosened up and probably would have fractured due to the corrosion due to the water sitting in the engine for an extended period of time.
in retrospect after seeing one of these tiger japanese motors, with a written note on the sales slip of "no warranty". i would pass on them completely even if you plan on rebuilding one of the Jspec motors. not that this motor is junk, but luckily it did come to me and i do not let the condition of a motor deter me from putting in the extra effort to recondition one, this one has seen better days but it is still salvagable, but the money saved in buying one of these cheaper Jspec cores is going to be spent in additional cleaning fees.
there was actually a leaf in the oil pan also and crap in the intake runners and exhaust ports, leading me to wonder what exactly they do to store these engines. seems to me they drop them in the ocean first, then bury them under a pile of leaves then add about half a gallon of fogging oil to attempt to build compression for a single attempt at starting the engine, if it's a no go then you're SOL. even if it would have started, i would immediately do a steam clean treatment on the engine to dislodge all of the crap that was sitting in the engine and in the intake stream, on top of that do several oil changes to get that crap out of the pan and change the coolant again after a hundred miles, the brown crap in the blue bucket was supposed to be coolant..
in short, 4 of 6 of the apex seals were jammed as well as ALL of the side and corner seals.
my suggestion to Tiger japanese if you happen to read this is to make a bellhousing fixture to attach a starter to a rotary, remove the plugs and crank the engine over to get out any crap sitting in the motor then add your internal lubricants, rotate it again then add the final bit of pretectant internal lubricants. at least that will flush out the motor and get the majority of the crap out of it to keep the internals from looking like a rusty anchor, marvel mystery oil does a good job at freeing up stuck seals and keeping them loose during storage. this is just a horrible example of an imported engine and makes you look bad due to poor storage and treatment measures. maybe you thought since it was going all the way to nevada that you could skim by and pass off one of the most junk looking motors you had in stock, except for i wound up with it and here you go.
the coolant seals in this motor were in decent shape, this motor could have been a good example of a Jspec engine and likely would not have needed a rebuild with just a little more care.
will post more pictures as i begin reconditioning the engine. keep in mind the following pictures from here on out are not a testament to the quality of a Tiger japanese motor, they are a testament to my dedication to building quality products even when others would possibly shitcan them because many people find it easier to just charge the customer for new replacements.
in retrospect after seeing one of these tiger japanese motors, with a written note on the sales slip of "no warranty". i would pass on them completely even if you plan on rebuilding one of the Jspec motors. not that this motor is junk, but luckily it did come to me and i do not let the condition of a motor deter me from putting in the extra effort to recondition one, this one has seen better days but it is still salvagable, but the money saved in buying one of these cheaper Jspec cores is going to be spent in additional cleaning fees.
there was actually a leaf in the oil pan also and crap in the intake runners and exhaust ports, leading me to wonder what exactly they do to store these engines. seems to me they drop them in the ocean first, then bury them under a pile of leaves then add about half a gallon of fogging oil to attempt to build compression for a single attempt at starting the engine, if it's a no go then you're SOL. even if it would have started, i would immediately do a steam clean treatment on the engine to dislodge all of the crap that was sitting in the engine and in the intake stream, on top of that do several oil changes to get that crap out of the pan and change the coolant again after a hundred miles, the brown crap in the blue bucket was supposed to be coolant..
in short, 4 of 6 of the apex seals were jammed as well as ALL of the side and corner seals.
my suggestion to Tiger japanese if you happen to read this is to make a bellhousing fixture to attach a starter to a rotary, remove the plugs and crank the engine over to get out any crap sitting in the motor then add your internal lubricants, rotate it again then add the final bit of pretectant internal lubricants. at least that will flush out the motor and get the majority of the crap out of it to keep the internals from looking like a rusty anchor, marvel mystery oil does a good job at freeing up stuck seals and keeping them loose during storage. this is just a horrible example of an imported engine and makes you look bad due to poor storage and treatment measures. maybe you thought since it was going all the way to nevada that you could skim by and pass off one of the most junk looking motors you had in stock, except for i wound up with it and here you go.
the coolant seals in this motor were in decent shape, this motor could have been a good example of a Jspec engine and likely would not have needed a rebuild with just a little more care.
will post more pictures as i begin reconditioning the engine. keep in mind the following pictures from here on out are not a testament to the quality of a Tiger japanese motor, they are a testament to my dedication to building quality products even when others would possibly shitcan them because many people find it easier to just charge the customer for new replacements.
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05-06-11, 06:49 PM
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WOW i have no words for this that place is completely pathetic thanks ben for helping me out this is gonna probably be quite an ordeal for you =(
05-06-11, 07:21 PM
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Seriously guys stop this nonsense. Look at tigers ebay satisfaction rating, its excellent. I've researched them and have heard way more good then i have bad. Of course there are always bad apples, and i'd like to hear the real story on how much these jacked up motors cost and what exactly they were told on there condition before they were ordered. I've had several friends who have bought motors from these guys and were more then pleased. I'll have my t2 motor from them on wednesday and i'll post pics. I just ordered it yesterday, so far i'm pleased with there quick shipping from canada. To the OP did you recieve your motor yet?
05-06-11, 07:42 PM
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if he thinks this is all bogus, well:
pretty sure all their motors cost about the same and you can't just say "give me one of your best motors" and they comply. they have to get rid of the junk piles eventually and this was one of the engines in that pile.
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05-06-11, 07:44 PM
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Sorry I missed the part about sending it off. Didn't realize the pics from other user was his motor. Thats just bad luck right there, I had a guy on the phone at tiger looking at the motor i ordered. He said it was super clean and in really good shape. I guess i'll see on wednesday.
05-06-11, 08:16 PM
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He was and i'll guess we shall see. I'm not worried about it, I recorded our conversation and if my motor comes looking like that I'll dispute my purchase and claim false sales information and get refunded by my bank and tell them to send a carrierto come get there pos. Like I said i've heard a lot of good things about there motors and like someone said earlier it hit or miss sometimes. But according to there ebay reviews and friends of mine its been mostly "hit" with good motors. Your client just got hosed and I feel bad for him.
05-06-11, 09:25 PM
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^I certainly wish you the best. I hope you don't need to dispute the purchase. Most credit card and paypal claims have to be in-state purchases. I know because I ran into trouble with an out of state seller. That and the recorded conversation might not stand up in court. Not to mention the cost of taking them to court would far outweigh the cost of the engine.
05-07-11, 05:02 AM
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Honestly IMO.
That motor looks like SH*T!
I would just throw it in the dumpster and order brand new parts from mazda.
I get sick of seeing cheap rebuilds with used parts.
That motor looks like SH*T!
I would just throw it in the dumpster and order brand new parts from mazda.
I get sick of seeing cheap rebuilds with used parts.
05-07-11, 05:54 AM
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My old GTU had a Kevin Landers rebuild, and it's been running very strong since. The car ran reliably for me and the new "owner" (long story behind it)
Half the people here wouldn't own an RX7 if everyone threw away used parts.
05-07-11, 09:45 AM
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Seriously guys stop this nonsense. Look at tigers ebay satisfaction rating, its excellent. I've researched them and have heard way more good then i have bad. Of course there are always bad apples, and i'd like to hear the real story on how much these jacked up motors cost and what exactly they were told on there condition before they were ordered. I've had several friends who have bought motors from these guys and were more then pleased. I'll have my t2 motor from them on wednesday and i'll post pics. I just ordered it yesterday, so far i'm pleased with there quick shipping from canada. To the OP did you recieve your motor yet?
05-07-11, 02:11 PM
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Piston people who run their mouths like ignorant ****** should get the boot from this forum. I can understand if you pop 3 of em or more and want to try something else or love rx7's but want something that is more dummy-proof but dont push that **** on the rest of the forum. Really, **** should be combated with banning people. I like BOTH for the record and looking at the motor on this page that puked it's guts inside itself from tiger made me sick.
I'd go apeshit and start throwing things and scream until my throat is raw if i saw that. That's a $300 rebuildable core. Getting charged any more than that (minus shipping fees ofcourse) is stealing from the customer. That is ridiculous. I bet they didn't even try turning the engine over by hand or even doing a bare bones visual inspection (removing the turbo manifold to atleast look inside the ports.....). People are greedy ********. I swear.
05-08-11, 12:13 AM
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I got one from Tiger a couple years ago. Those pics look alot like how mine did. I ordered one knowing before hand that I was gonna rebuild it.
The funny thing about mine was that I ordered a S4 TII, I got a TII which had S4 irons but S5 housings.
The funny thing about mine was that I ordered a S4 TII, I got a TII which had S4 irons but S5 housings.