2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

JDM TigerJapanese motor

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-05-11, 08:10 AM
  #26  
Team Doodoo

Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Rickyyp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Poughkeepsie, NY
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Karack
it's about the same size as the S475 that i built an RE engine for a local for.

cept the S475 tops out at about 1200 horsepower, well, supposedly anyways. i don't think anyone has gotten over about 1086WHP from a 2 rotor yet.
i am jealous of that local

and hey if i get rich one day lets aim for 1200 on a 2 rotor
Old 04-05-11, 09:21 AM
  #27  
Engine, Not Motor

iTrader: (1)
 
Aaron Cake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: London, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 29,789
Likes: 0
Received 108 Likes on 91 Posts
I've bought from Tiger, but I would only do so if I was able to be physically there to inspect the engine. A year or so ago was the last time and the engine was an REW. It was damn near perfect inside as well as clean and in great shape. BUT, WE WENT THERE PHYSICALLY TO PICK OUT THE ENGINE.
Old 04-05-11, 11:45 AM
  #28  
Team Doodoo

Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Rickyyp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Poughkeepsie, NY
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
I've bought from Tiger, but I would only do so if I was able to be physically there to inspect the engine. A year or so ago was the last time and the engine was an REW. It was damn near perfect inside as well as clean and in great shape. BUT, WE WENT THERE PHYSICALLY TO PICK OUT THE ENGINE.
for my next motor i will get someone to go with me but for now...


i shall pray !
Old 04-05-11, 10:27 PM
  #29  
86 fc3s base model
iTrader: (1)
 
rotary everything!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: southern oregon
Posts: 145
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
so who would you guys say is a reputable importer then? i was thinking of oredering
from japan2la.
Old 04-12-11, 04:56 PM
  #30  
Sharp Claws

iTrader: (30)
 
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 0
Received 41 Likes on 40 Posts
Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
I've bought from Tiger, but I would only do so if I was able to be physically there to inspect the engine. A year or so ago was the last time and the engine was an REW. It was damn near perfect inside as well as clean and in great shape. BUT, WE WENT THERE PHYSICALLY TO PICK OUT THE ENGINE.
then i'm sure you can say i am correct in guessing that these motors are stored outdoors? uploading pictures now.

Originally Posted by rotary everything!
so who would you guys say is a reputable importer then? i was thinking of oredering
from japan2la.
for anyone who plans on just dropping in the engine without going through it first, i would say from this experience with tiger japanese that my answer would be a definite no.
Old 04-12-11, 05:05 PM
  #31  
Sharp Claws

iTrader: (30)
 
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 0
Received 41 Likes on 40 Posts
bent split air pipe, no big deal:


bent throttle cable cam, again no big deal:


intercooler has seen better days.... again not too difficult to find a stock top mount intercooler:


Jspec smog pump is toast, USDM flow more air anyways and aren't too hard to find:


unfortunately the turbo is also damaged on the compressor wheel, hopefully no debris went into the engine and scarred up the rotors or housings. the turbo is relatively easy to repair though:


side shot of the intercooler and some dragging on the upper intake, no cracks thankfully:


and finally about a half quart of fogging oil and water in the engine. the apex seals have signs of rust on them as well as some minor rust on the rotor faces but it appears the seals and rotors aren't damaged otherwise, hopefully the rotor housings are in decent shape:


i will post more findings once i get the engine itself torn apart but so far the tiger japanese do not pick out their engines well or store them well, either or.

Last edited by RotaryEvolution; 04-12-11 at 05:09 PM.
Old 04-12-11, 05:07 PM
  #32  
Team Doodoo

Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Rickyyp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Poughkeepsie, NY
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Karack
bent split air pipe, no big deal:


bent throttle cable cam, again no big deal:


intercooler has seen better days.... again not too difficult to find a stock top mount intercooler:


Jspec smog pump is toast, USDM flow more air anyways and aren't too hard to find:


unfortunately the turbo is also damaged on the compressor wheel, hopefully no debris went into the engine and scarred up the rotors or housings. the turbo is relatively easy to repair though:


side shot of the intercooler and some dragging on the upper intake, no cracks thankfully:


and finally about a gallon of fogging oil and water in the engine. the apex seals have signs of rust on them as well as some minor rust on the rotor faces but it appears the seals and rotors aren't damaged otherwise, hopefully the rotor housings are in decent shape:


i will post more findings once i get the engine itself torn apart but so far the tiger japanese do not pick out their engines well or store them well, either or.
im $%^&ed
Old 04-12-11, 05:14 PM
  #33  
Apex Seal Treachery!!!!!!

iTrader: (13)
 
JustJeff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Indiana
Posts: 2,406
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
^I've put in my prayers for you with the rotary gods
Old 04-12-11, 05:16 PM
  #34  
Sharp Claws

iTrader: (30)
 
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 0
Received 41 Likes on 40 Posts
nah most of the external stuff is relatively minor. the internals are what we have to cross our fingers for to be in decent shape.
Old 04-12-11, 05:18 PM
  #35  
Team Doodoo

Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Rickyyp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Poughkeepsie, NY
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by JustJeff
^I've put in my prayers for you with the rotary gods
thanks! appreciate it

Originally Posted by Karack
nah most of the external stuff is relatively minor. the internals are what we have to cross our fingers for to be in decent shape.
yaa really hope so *fingers crossed*
Old 04-12-11, 05:32 PM
  #36  
Apex Seal Treachery!!!!!!

iTrader: (13)
 
JustJeff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Indiana
Posts: 2,406
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Karack
nah most of the external stuff is relatively minor. the internals are what we have to cross our fingers for to be in decent shape.
That's what my prayers are for. I was nervous when I tore down my engine after loosing compression. Turns out a detonated the front rotor. Had to replace the housing and rotor but didn't do any damage to my turbo....but turned out the turbo had too much shaft play so I replaced it anyway.

Best of wishes with it and keep us posted
Old 04-12-11, 07:38 PM
  #37  
My car is green

iTrader: (7)
 
bewst12psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Reading PA
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
those pics look to be about par for the course.... but at least it has everything on it.

When we drained the Trans that came with my buddy's SR, we got about a quart of water out of it as well. From the looks of it, I would haven't been suprised if it fell off the Dock and into the Pacific before they wrapped it up and shipped it on over.

I hope you guys Luck out and get good, solid engines though.
Old 04-12-11, 08:30 PM
  #38  
Team Doodoo

Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Rickyyp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Poughkeepsie, NY
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
thanks man hope i luck out my mom was driving my daily n it broke down im **** outta luck lol
Old 04-13-11, 10:06 AM
  #39  
Engine, Not Motor

iTrader: (1)
 
Aaron Cake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: London, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 29,789
Likes: 0
Received 108 Likes on 91 Posts
Now that is a big POS.

Some are stored outside, some aren't.
Old 04-13-11, 10:46 AM
  #40  
Senior Member

iTrader: (1)
 
christianRX7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 306
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
gooooooodaaaaaammmm that **** sucks waw
Old 04-13-11, 01:30 PM
  #41  
I break Diff mounts

iTrader: (1)
 
Digi7ech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Avondale, Arizona
Posts: 4,403
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
That turbo is FUCKED. Those blades are mangled. Something obviously went in there with the compressor spinning.

My Jspec motor has the same ****. Took it to a Garrett Dealer and inspected it and said it was junk. Compressor was pitted and dented beyond repair.
Old 04-13-11, 02:01 PM
  #42  
Apex Seal Treachery!!!!!!

iTrader: (13)
 
JustJeff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Indiana
Posts: 2,406
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Used S5 turbos go for pretty cheap. They are more concerned with the internals
Old 04-13-11, 02:04 PM
  #43  
Team Doodoo

Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Rickyyp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Poughkeepsie, NY
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yes sir^ im just hoping for the best with those internals all tht lil stuff wont be too bad as long as the internals arent all scarred up like karack was saying
Old 04-13-11, 02:14 PM
  #44  
I

iTrader: (6)
 
KompressorLOgic's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Spanaway, WA
Posts: 3,755
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
man id be fairly worried after seeing that turbo!
Old 04-13-11, 02:16 PM
  #45  
Team Doodoo

Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Rickyyp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Poughkeepsie, NY
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by kompressorlogic
man id be fairly worried after seeing that turbo!
i am very worried
Old 04-13-11, 04:33 PM
  #46  
Sharp Claws

iTrader: (30)
 
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 0
Received 41 Likes on 40 Posts
well, the fan blades are still fairly intact so it looks to me that whatever went through the intake wasn't running on the turbo for very long and is why they yanked the engine prematurely possibly. that turbo would have been howling like a dog. and it doesn't seem like any large bits came off and had a change to scar up the internals.

the turbo compressor housing appears to be in good shape with some blasting and cleaning up, i have some S4 turbo parts such as a compressor wheel that will be a direct swap into the S5 turbo. it has no thrust play so i will simply have to check the shaft for any runout prior to reassembly if i do repair this turbo.

my thoughts are, even though this engine looks like a rust bucket i am going to take the high road and say this engine may have even less miles on it than most jspecs due to the failed turbo, meaning the internals may be better than can be expected(hopefully it had oil put in it before any water sat for any extended period of time). i say this because even though it has oxidization all over it there isn't a single spot of greasy oil leakage on the motor anywhere, meaning to me it seems like a very low mile motor. i can just hope that the water did not damage the chrome surfaces or have any chrome flaking which would expedite the sleeve rusting process.

but this is all just guesswork until i pull apart the engine early next week.

i actually have a good amount of faith that the core block is in decent condition though, but it definitely isn't a plug'n'play box. it did obviously have a boost controller on it which is where my only reservations lie. the stock line to the wastegate was bypassed and capped is how i know.

Last edited by RotaryEvolution; 04-13-11 at 04:40 PM.
Old 04-13-11, 05:53 PM
  #47  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
iTrader: (256)
 
Japan2LA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Los Angeles CA.
Posts: 11,092
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Hmmm...
Old 04-13-11, 11:23 PM
  #48  
Converted from 240s

 
NA/FC-Drifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Acworth,Ga
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I had Kevin Landers of Rotary Resurrection rebuild/port/ and balance my 13B-NA. He did an awesome job. I'm saving up for him to do a full-bridge port for it next.
Old 04-14-11, 12:04 AM
  #49  
s4 Pride

iTrader: (19)
 
TheAbsence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Posts: 3,350
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
For the record, my engine and trans from Japan2LA were beautiful. There may have been one bad dealing with him, but there have been a heck of a lot more great dealings with him.

Subscribed to this thread and I sure hope the internals are impeccable for you OP.
Old 04-14-11, 10:30 AM
  #50  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
iTrader: (256)
 
Japan2LA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Los Angeles CA.
Posts: 11,092
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Originally Posted by TheAbsence
For the record, my engine and trans from Japan2LA were beautiful. There may have been one bad dealing with him, but there have been a heck of a lot more great dealings with him.

Subscribed to this thread and I sure hope the internals are impeccable for you OP.
For the record, this engine was NOT purchased from me.


Quick Reply: JDM TigerJapanese motor



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:58 PM.