That actually looks pretty good !

Well but I dunno. I will see if I can take a pic on my FC ASAP and show you guys what should I do with it ...

 

just remember that to most people a car is worth more with original paint that might have a few issues then a poor paint job

if its a beater it really doesn't matter either way

 

if you really wanna spend good money on paint. house of kolor. RM paint are prolly the best on the market. your gonna spend about 200 bucks on a gallon of hok with its reducers made specially for hok paint. that should net you closer to two gallons. ive never worked with RM but its used on I belive benz and BMWs not to sure but I've seen the end results and they are fantastic

 

Thats right. And there is nothing worse in my view than a 'Maaco-type' paint job that peels around the edges and the trim because of poor prep.

Not just picking on Maaco or even Earl Sheib. Both of those shops can do a good job if the prep is done right.

But for Hot Rod or a beater ( when I was a kid we called this kind of car a 'Heap' ), there is a nice benefit to having all the body panels the same color, even if it is not original paint. How many cars do you see on these pages that have multiple colors because they purchased a replacement fender or bumper cover or two? Most of those cars are never going to painted with a $4000-6000 paint job. It can't be justified.

I am going to paint more cars like this, trying different colors of the Rustoleum. I have committed to paint one for a friend, he hasn't picked the color but it will probably be that 'Safety Red'. I also want to paint something that 'Safety Blue' aka Process Blue 'C'. I might reshoot the GXL this summer, just for kicks.

 

what makes you say HOK is the best? Based on what? What criteria?
What line of their paint is $200 a gallon with "reducers"

 

Ahhhh 200/gal is not pricey. The Red PPG paint used for a Dodge Stealth I did was $750/gal at cost. The add in the reducers etc and you get around $1200 or so. HOK is good stuff, but it is really subjective. INHO the BEST is SIKKENS or Glasurit, but both of those can be off the scale expensive and usually hard to get for a hobbyist.

Buying all the stuff needed to paint a car, starting with the sandpaper, blocks, etc, then guns, reducers, prep agents, and ending with a buffer and compound is more than just having a car painted. If your going to do a lot of cars, or as a hobby do one or so a year, maybe make that investment, but I wouldnt if all your doing is painting a single car.

We used to have Maaco paint all the race cars back in the day. We would do as much of the bodywork as we thought needed to be done, strip and mask the cars ourselves, than tow them over to be sprayed. We would try and catch thier $150 or whatever special they run every so often (I think its $299 now) and that saved some cash. The guys that lay down paint at Maaco probably have more booth time than anyone else in the business (that you can afford) so we almost always got a decent job as long as WE did 99% of the prep work. They pay thier prep guys OK I guess but they usually have a lot of work so a lot can get missed or overlooked, and they dont care as much as you might about overspray etc. Every so often we would get back a car with a run or sag, but not often, and they would usually fix it for free. Cheap, quick and easy- the way it should be for a daily driver or race car.

 

I did the "roll on" method on my 85 FB in Rustoleum Sunrise Red and have been pleased with the results. You do have to be religious about keeping it polished but I have had many people comment that they cannot believe I rolled the paint on.

Up next is my white 90 Vert but my plan this time is to spray it with Rustoleum Marine Topside paint in white. Supposedly it has UV protectors in it that I suspect will help keep the shine in it longer and easier. My only problem is that I have nowhere to spray it inside so the odds are I will have some surface contaminants to deal with. I checked around on a pro job but the cheapest I have found is $1,500 and for a car I paid $2,600 for, I cannot justify spending those kind of bucks on paint when I know I can give it a good "ten foot" paint job for under a $100 bucks.

Jack, I am interested in hearing what environment you painted yours in. Garage, make-shift booth, etc.?

 

Here is another shot of the Rustoleum paint job in "street trim" and from a rear/side angle.

 

I did my PPG job in my garage. I created my own booth. I have a 9' ceiling in a 3-car garage. I screwed 1/4" eye bolts into the ceiling and pulled a 22 gauge galvanized wire tight to create a top edge about 2" from the ceiling. I then hung 1-mil painters drop-cloth plastic over the wire. I used clothes pins to secure the plastic to the wire. The plastic went over the wire about 1' to help keep a straight edge. I hung the drop cloth in 10' widths overlapping each section by about 4 '. The plastic then hung down to the floor and had about 1' of plastic sitting on the floor. I supplied filtered positive pressure air into the booth by making an air-duct (of plastic) from my window air-conditioner through a furnace filter. When the air conditioner fan ran, the entire booth pressured up. The sides of the booth expanded away from the car until they were just barely off the ground. Air could escape over the top if the wire and under the plastic . I had access to the booth through the overlapping sheets.

It goes like this:
Do any body work.
Sweep the floor.
Mop the floor.
Wash floor.
Wash the car, move it in.
Chemically clean the car (grease and wax remover).
Attach earth ground to the car (static prevention)
Drop the plastic sheets.
Tack cloth.
Turn on the filtered air.
Paint.

I have hijacked this thread from the original purpose.

 

the plastic sheeting is a HUGE static charge, hopefully it is grabbing some of the dirt for you, wetting down the floor and all around the exterior of the garage is a good idea

 

I had advice that told me the moisture in the air was detrimental, so I didn't wet down while spraying. When the air was on the plastic sheeting 'billowed' outwards away from the car. I had very little trash in the paint. Maybe it did collect on the plastic, never thought of that. The paint booth was clean enough and the supplied air was filtered so pretty much the overspray droplets were the only thing falling. I found color in the internal filter of the A/C, but none on the secondary filter where the air entered the booth.

That said, I did not set the entire booth up for the Rustoleum paint job. I just mopped and washed, and painted in the garage. I had a little bit of trash, but not much. Certainly not enough to matter for the purposes of that car.

 

lets put it more as a very wet mopping, not ponding water

all bodyshops do it, its not that bad for the paint, but if its 90 degrees out with high humidity then you dont want to make another issue

 

Where Jack lives, "90° with high humidity" is called "winter".

 

NYCGPS, Think of this. Do you really want to learn body work ect? If you do then you will make time for it. If you can care less about it and just want a nice looking car pay some one to do it. ITS NOT CHEAP. Since tuesday i worked almost 60hr. Did not go to bed tue night-wend at 5 340am. got woke up at 430am and was back at it. i slept last night for a few hours. Im DEAD tired BEAT. body hurts......Im going to work on my car today come hell or high water. PERSONALLY i spray PPG more often than any other paint. My gun and the paint are matched perfectly. PPG has been around for ever, its tried, its proven. There are many diff. kinds of paints out there. It's really all what the PAINTER THAT IS SPRAYING perfers. I would suggest have someone that knows what there looking at come take a look at the car and give you there opinion. If you know someone that can stop by and take a peek at it every 2-3days and tell you what you did wrong ect ect, you would be able to do it yourself no problem. After the 1st 10hr. you begin to feel like "you got this". If you do the work yourself, when that thing rolls out the paint booth the smile on your face will be priceless.

 

I really want to do it myself, but work is a bitch ... no I don't work on cars for a living

I "might" be able to squeeze about 2 months of time out but ...

Anyway, one of my friend he does those protective film thing for a living, he said he has seen enough cars and swear that there are 2 painters only that can do perfect match(around NYC area)

Like all you guys said the pep work is one of the most important step for a perfect paint job. Paint is just based on what the painter likes to use.

hmm, maybe I should give him a call and see what he say ...

 

do a perfect match on what? I thought you were painting the whole car?

 

I mention paint matching because I might need him (if I give him the job) to paint part of my RX-8 too. cuz I parked on the street a while ago and some asswipe keyed it. too deep, need repaint, plus I have 1 FEED bumper and 1 Fujita Bumper ... why 2 bumpers? cuz Im a bit tired of Mazdaspeed bumpers

yea ... my FC needs a complete repaint, and my friend said that guy does perfect paint job. I trust his opinion, he saw his work a lot of times even Ferraris and Porsches job.

 

lol, last week we had 86*. This week, Ice-mogedden followed by Snow-mogedden. I personally think God is punishing Jerry Jones. I know that because I heard Him say that on Fox Sports, right before Howie mussed up His hair.

 

usually if a shop is THAT good you aint getting a car painted for under $5k if they will even touch it, most busy shops cant be bothered with full paint jobs

 

I want Rob to paint my car.

He has the best paint on the boards.

 

thanks jack but I dont really paint cars

 

I knew that. I will say that many have called the S5 vert a boat.

Close enough!

 

Yeah they're very busy, all the time.

my friend will ask the shop see if they will be "free" anytime soon.

Damn, that boat looks good ! You are doing a great job man !

 

I bought a gallon of HOK black and its reducers for 200 bucks. i bought it thru my families body shop and i might have been getting a deal. House of Kolor is used by a lot of show guys and it gives such a vibrant color. I have noticed black from nason looks brown in sunlight and black using chromabase from dupont looks like black. its all opinion dude.

 

that looks so ******* good dude!