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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:02 PM
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intercooler to use with 60-1

I found an intercooler off a Ford Powerstoke engine, its 30" X 18" X 2" The ports on both sides are 3 inches, total width of the unit is 38-1/2 inches including the ports. would this handle the ~14-16 lbs of boost I'm going to be making? will it fit in the front of the car?
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:12 PM
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i'm not sure if it will fit in the front.
if you put it right in front of the radiator something like an m2 large fits (12.6w 11.5h 3.5t) you can go a little wider if you can get the wiring out of the way.
if you put it right in the nose just get the new greddy v spec kit and be done with it

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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:14 PM
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I will be using the Greddy V-spec intercooler with my 60-1. Its a great kit and would highly recommend it.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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the greddy kit is like 1k isn't this one is under $300. If i go with this one I'll put it infront of the rad.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:23 PM
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Just remember you get what you pay for. But if you don't have that much I guess you have to find an alternative. Im not sure I would go for an intercooler with plastic end caps though.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:23 PM
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anyone know how big the stock radaitor is ?
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:27 PM
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:46 PM
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Oh, I was wrong sorry! It may not be too bad of an idea as long as you can find a good way to mount it.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 08:52 PM
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Re: intercooler to use with 60-1

Originally posted by Ridge Tech
I found an intercooler off a Ford Powerstoke engine, its 30" X 18" X 2" The ports on both sides are 3 inches, total width of the unit is 38-1/2 inches including the ports. would this handle the ~14-16 lbs of boost I'm going to be making? will it fit in the front of the car?
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That should fit. I've seen bigger intercoolers than that on FC's here in Japan
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 10:32 PM
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hum...
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 11:16 PM
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My guess is it will take some major custom work to get that to fit. If you get it to work let us all know how.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 11:29 PM
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my guess would be relocate the battery and cut away some metal, I need to measure the rad and then I'll have a better idea. with its size it works out to 1000cc's of cooling
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 12:04 AM
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That beautiful pic made me go out to the garage w/ a measuring tape. In the engine bay the "frame rails" are only 29" apart. If 30" is the measurement where the inlet/outlet stick out there is a chance it could sit low enough to clear the hood if placed where the radiator normally goes. If those were core measurements, no way it could fit. In the nose would require major cutting...
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 12:09 AM
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the greddy kit comes with the piping and a throttle elbow

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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 12:15 AM
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Just saw the 38" at inlet/outlet... Thats huge! Mount it horizontally in the front of the engine, placing the radiator at an angle back to make room and ditching stock fan, then put a million louvers in the front to middle of the hood for venting it?
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Originally posted by 1FastT2
Just remember you get what you pay for.
only to a certain point. after that you are merely paying for the name, or you are generally getting ripped off
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 08:09 AM
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only to a certain point. after that you are merely paying for the name, or you are generally getting ripped off
I totally agree with you there. My friend owns a MKIV supra, and we often laugh about how the MKIV owners worship the "HKS God" . There are just so many people who ignore the hard evidence and are swept in by the "name brand". Do you realize the HKS Twin kit sells for around $7400 now! Then look at the cost of a pair of GT2835s directly from garret. RPS sells an HKS replica manifold with the same garret flanges, for something like ~400 less! Even better, have some custom weld-els welded on to a couple flanges, and have the thing ceramic coated. It will cost a fraction, look great, and have better heat resistance.

Keep in mind the powerstoke intercooler has cast endtanks, which are porous. Combine that with the overkill in size for a 60-1, and you are potentially looking at a sizeable lag and pressure drop in the system. I don't know the flow, cooling BTU, or pressure drop numbers on these things, so I'm just giving you something to look into. NPRs have cast endtanks, and seem to have a neglegable pressure drop.

Do your research, and you will be rewarded
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 08:40 AM
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you guys are my research, wheter thats good or bad, thats yet to be determeined

How about an NPR intercooler, I was searching around on the forum and saw many a post about those. It works out to about 400cc of cooling. When you compare it to 1000cc it seems rather small, but since I don't have the 60-1 yet I'm not sure what is the best for it? The deminsions are 24 inches wide the core is 19 3/4 wide 8 1/2 tall 2 1/4 thick with inlet outlet 2 1/4 o.d

Is the NPR big enough?
Is the general appoin that the super duty is too large?

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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 08:46 AM
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Are you taking about the large or the small NPR intercooler? The large one is just the right size to go in front of the radiator.
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 08:51 AM
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Not to be a smart ***, but I edited my post and you probley didn't see where I put in the deminsions

The deminsions are 24 inches wide the core is 19 3/4 wide 8 1/2 tall 2 1/4 thick with inlet outlet 2 1/4 o.d
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 08:53 AM
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Thats the small one, it will fit in the bumper.

Here:

Originally posted by rxrotary2_7
The NPR IC: at 329cfm and 290°F on the inlet side of the IC, the
pressure
drop is 0.09psi. The outlet temp is 130°F, heat rejected is 55553
BTU/hr, and
the calculated heat exchange area is 1404 square inches.

Starion IC : (the bigger one) at 324cfm and 292°F on the inlet side of
the
IC, the pressure drop is 0.29psi. The outlet temp is 139°F, heat
rejected is
52287 BTU/hr, and the calculated heat exchange area is 1217 square
inches.

Saab 9000 IC: at 332cfm and 295°F on the inlet side of the IC, the
pressure
drop is 0.81psi. The outlet temp is 123°F, heat rejected is 60350
BTU/hr, and
the calculated heat exchange area is 1602 square inches.

Volvo IC: at 331cfm and 293°F on the inlet side of the IC, the pressure
drop
is 0.55psi. The outlet temp is 126°F, heat rejected is 58809 BTU/hr,
and the
calculated heat exchange area is 1539 square inches.

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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 10:17 AM
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hey felix do you have the sizes for the volvo ic?

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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 12:00 PM
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Are those IC pics stock?&nbsp Or someone hacked the endtanks?&nbsp Those endtanks scare me, as they really restrict the flow coming off the ends of the core...



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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 12:46 PM
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thats how it comes, I know, I looked at the angle of the end tanks and wondered about that myself. how about this NPR one?
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 09:39 PM
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Thats the small NPR. I have it; it will fit in the FC several ways-none of which I have done yet though :-(
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