Intake System
10-12-04, 11:07 AM
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Intake System
Ok so my FC runs strong but i want to get rid of the stock intake setup. I need some recomnedations on an intake system because I've been looking and can't find a damn thing aside from the b/s ebay intakes. Oh yeah and it's for a 90' TII
10-12-04, 12:29 PM
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not everything on ebay is a joke.. if you use the stuff they give you and either improve on it , or use some imagination .. you could have a really nice lookin , function part /intake for half of what people spend on a intake. but personally , to spend 170.00 bucks (average) on a intake for our cars that are simply a maf adapter( and on s5's you dont even need one) and a cone filter . im sorry .. i built a intake for my s5 na for like 70 bucks with filter included a whole new pipe , and couplings. thats allready more than half saved on a intake that you would buy from a big named company. take some pride , use your imagination and save a little money doing it ..
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10-12-04, 01:01 PM
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Ho's and Cadillac Doors
You buy an AFM adapter plate off of ebay and throw a K&N on it. Wanna show me a measurable difference other than price? Spending $200+ on any other intake setup that is the exact same thing is absolutely retarded.
10-12-04, 01:03 PM
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Ho's and Cadillac Doors
I take part of that back, seeing as how most K&N's are ridiculously overpriced. You can get decent filters for half of that price, that are the same damn thing.
10-12-04, 01:12 PM
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Ho's and Cadillac Doors
$65 (I actually have the same thing on my FC, except I got it for $40 less
$140.
Slick marketing and falsely convincing people that they are going to notice much if any difference between these two intakes. Not gonna happen.
And yes the HKS supposedly reduces turbulence. I would love to see a dyno comparison of the possible 1 horsepower that it gains.
The only intake system worth spending bucks on would be a full ram air system.
I still couldn't justify throwing down over $500 for that because it doesn't look like too much of an improvement either.
$140.
Slick marketing and falsely convincing people that they are going to notice much if any difference between these two intakes. Not gonna happen.
And yes the HKS supposedly reduces turbulence. I would love to see a dyno comparison of the possible 1 horsepower that it gains.
The only intake system worth spending bucks on would be a full ram air system.
I still couldn't justify throwing down over $500 for that because it doesn't look like too much of an improvement either.
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10-12-04, 01:15 PM
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Man deadbeats really **** me off. Ok have you heard of quality and design superiority? That is one of several things you pay for when you buy quality products among which K&N and Apex'I are only two. The **** sold on ebay is not good quality or design PERIOD.
10-12-04, 01:21 PM
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@ pipnorcali
here is my intake set up for the budget guys who want quality, I would put that e bay filter anywhere near my car
HKS adaptor $20
Injen or K&N Filter $35-45
Vinspeed box (or make your own) $60
I also wrapped the intake pipe as well this will make do until my new intake set up is done
HKS adaptor $20
Injen or K&N Filter $35-45
Vinspeed box (or make your own) $60
I also wrapped the intake pipe as well this will make do until my new intake set up is done
10-12-04, 01:22 PM
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Ho's and Cadillac Doors
Deadbeats? Are you aware of the amount of money in premium parts that has been dropped on my FC? I am trying to tell this kid not to get suckered into throwing a ton of money down for no reason.
So you're admitting that there is no performance difference? Mind you this is something that sits under the hood of your car and doesn't move. I am willing to bet my aluminum cone filter is more durable than that plastic Apexi one. Plus if by chance it breaks I won't be pissed about losing $140.
So you're admitting that there is no performance difference? Mind you this is something that sits under the hood of your car and doesn't move. I am willing to bet my aluminum cone filter is more durable than that plastic Apexi one. Plus if by chance it breaks I won't be pissed about losing $140.
10-12-04, 01:25 PM
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I'm not going to call anyone a deadbeat but I would really like to know the number differances between the two products. Tey all have thier made up hp gains and each one of them say differantly on each one of thier test to make that persons filter seem better. Now I have the hks adapter so I can see the differances between the hks one and the cheap ones and guess what, there are no differances other than the hks logo. Now of course me having the hks intake adapter I also had the hks super mega flow intake and also the same thing but ebay brand super mega flow intake and niether one of them showed any more gains than the other (butt dyno) as far as I could tell. I am now going to try and use the ebay cone filter to see how that goes and let you guys know however as far as I see so far no differances can be told by the old butt dyno. Now this doesn't say anything for the filtering part of it as I don't have anything that tests that.
10-12-04, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 2ndGen.rocket
Deadbeats? Are you aware of the amount of money in premium parts that has been dropped on my FC? I am trying to tell this kid not to get suckered into throwing a ton of money down for no reason.
So you're admitting that there is no performance difference? Mind you this is something that sits under the hood of your car and doesn't move. I am willing to bet my aluminum cone filter is more durable than that plastic Apexi one. Plus if by chance it breaks I won't be pissed about losing $140.
So you're admitting that there is no performance difference? Mind you this is something that sits under the hood of your car and doesn't move. I am willing to bet my aluminum cone filter is more durable than that plastic Apexi one. Plus if by chance it breaks I won't be pissed about losing $140.
You pay for design and quality. Part of the end result of better design and quality of the build is more performance. Have you ever tested them back to back? If so let us know by all means.
10-12-04, 01:27 PM
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Ho's and Cadillac Doors
Oh, and that picture I pulled of what I have in my car was from Corksport's website, being sold with their other intakes. The same thing that get's sold on Ebay.
10-12-04, 01:33 PM
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Ho's and Cadillac Doors
Originally Posted by 1987RX7guy
You pay for design and quality. Part of the end result of better design and quality of the build is more performance. Have you ever tested them back to back? If so let us know by all means.
Design and quality, and a brand name. That's what you are paying for. You're way the **** out of line calling me a deadbeat when you yourself can prove no difference in performance between these two products. I think just about anyone on this forum would agree that if there is any performance difference between these 2 products at all, then it is miniscule at best.
10-12-04, 01:48 PM
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1.3L is not that small
that ram air intake is not functional... the HEADLIGHT IS IN THE WAY... its a knockoff ... doesnt even work anyway... just mount it in the fender with honda piping and a good filter like a k&n universal ... they will run you anywhere from 20 to 50 bucks
10-12-04, 04:11 PM
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I have been working on engines and cars for a while now and find that people believe that if they spend a lot of money on their air intake, they will gain a worthwhile performance gain. This couldn't be further from the truth. Like it was mentioned earlier, the performance gain is so small that it's generally not worth it unless you have done every other mod possible and just have money to blow. Be creative and you can make a nice system for cheap. The air intake is just a damn AFM adapter with a freaking filter attached to it. Wow...I could of made that on a lathe and mill pretty easy. In fact, after buying one off of ebay, I can now use it as a template and make them if I so desire.
C'mon, working on cars should be fun, especially when you can do something for cheap that would of cost a sucker a lot more money. I about **** my pants when I saw that people wanted well over a 100 dollars for a freaking "air intake" which consisted of an adapter and a filter...wow...oh wait, my cheap rockin air intake doesn't have a sticker on it to give me that extra 2 hp. Hehe...
C'mon, working on cars should be fun, especially when you can do something for cheap that would of cost a sucker a lot more money. I about **** my pants when I saw that people wanted well over a 100 dollars for a freaking "air intake" which consisted of an adapter and a filter...wow...oh wait, my cheap rockin air intake doesn't have a sticker on it to give me that extra 2 hp. Hehe...
10-12-04, 06:16 PM
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umm... come on guys... i mean seriously... its a filter.. its not like it makes hell of alot of difference... twoedge has to have had the most intelligent post on here... haha...
10-12-04, 06:30 PM
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^^true dat^^ when buying a non-moving part, think about what it really is. mufflers just make your car quieter the only thign that matters is what diameter the inner piping is. Air filters filter air. you can make your own. here are two simple ways to make your own filter: get a tube and put a peice of light, oiled foam in it. (this is what somepeople do who have velocity stacks) or, make a mesh hemisphere and wrap a peice of cotton or foam around it and sandwich it with another mesh hemisphere. all it has to do is filter air and be able to supply the engine with an ample amount of air.
i also wanna try to stick an Ionic Breeze on instead of a filter.
i also wanna try to stick an Ionic Breeze on instead of a filter.
10-12-04, 06:31 PM
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haha that ram air trumpet style one is stupid, it may appeal to ppl who like carbon fiber but the filter is so small, its gotta be restrictive as anything, and its taking hot air from beside the radiator. Even the standard filter and system is gonna flow more than that.
Good options imo are the drop in panel filter replacements from k&n (they actually test theyre filters and have numbers on theyre website), or a enclosed box with a cold air feed and the biggest k&n filter you can fit in it- yes those real big ones. I figure like this- you want the filter to have as little restriction as possible right- so more filter area makes more flow- those bigass k&n ones are the best.
Good options imo are the drop in panel filter replacements from k&n (they actually test theyre filters and have numbers on theyre website), or a enclosed box with a cold air feed and the biggest k&n filter you can fit in it- yes those real big ones. I figure like this- you want the filter to have as little restriction as possible right- so more filter area makes more flow- those bigass k&n ones are the best.
