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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Black91n/a
Finally someone else has joined the fight to educate this guy!
Finally? I have been writnig articles on this stuff for years.

I think this really comes down to a case of book knowledge versus track experience. Those of us who have witnessed fluid boiling under extreme track conditions knows it exists. Those of us who have melted the steel backing on stock 4 piston set-ups knows how the stock system lacks. Those of us who have upgraded our pads and our braking ducts through testing and revision know that total overall retained heat in the braking system affects the pads and the brake fluid.

In street driving, you'll never see fluid boiling, so you'll never know its symptoms or its fluid conditions.
Old Nov 7, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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What I meant was that finally someone else was posting on this thread trying to educate JumpyRoo in particular.
Old Nov 7, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Black91n/a
What I meant was that finally someone else was posting on this thread trying to educate JumpyRoo in particular.
I think you guys need to hug.
Interesting stuff, interesting reading that's for sure. Thanks!
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 06:50 PM
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Let's say you did do this double front caliper setup, which in my opinion is a waste of time since i believe that the 4 piston brakes are really good enough for any street car, mine stops faster than anything i've felt. But my question is what about the brake booster? Will it have the power for two more calipers? I know many people have had thiers fail when not changing it out for a 5-lug one when doing the swap

Wow sorry i know you guys have already brought it up but how can someone say brake fluid can't boil? Some brands of brake fluid advertise high bioling points written right on the bottle
Old Nov 7, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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just do a 5 lug conversion thats what i would do
Old Nov 7, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bukwild
yeah mine are going because they look like **** against my painted rotors
....you painted your rotors?
Old Nov 9, 2004 | 12:34 AM
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i was going to say that too.....very interesting
Old Nov 9, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sectachrome
....you painted your rotors?
I coat the non-contact surfaces of my brake rotors too.
Better black gloss than rust to have poking through your nice aftermarket rims.
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:15 AM
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Maybe, maybe flat blak, but rust looks cool too.
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 01:11 AM
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All I will say is haven help us from the engineering school that is teaching that the thermal energy in brakes is really potential energy. Purhaps if we all put water tanks on our cars we can capture all this heat and turn it back into steam power... hydro hybrid power. hahahaha
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Julian
All I will say is haven help us from the engineering school that is teaching that the thermal energy in brakes is really potential energy. Purhaps if we all put water tanks on our cars we can capture all this heat and turn it back into steam power... hydro hybrid power. hahahaha

What that guy said.

Heat energy (in brakes) doesn't and will never do any work. It is created from friction. Is friction kinetic energy? No. Is friction potential energy? No.

With that being said:

Regenerative braking in hybrids is a different matter. Some of that energy is converted to electrical energy which IS potential energy. I also recall a prototype of a Ford pickup that built up hydraulic energy with its braking system which was used to accelerate the vehicle from a stop, improving fuel economy. Neat stuff, though it doesn't apply to the vehicle in question.
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Just when I thought this thread was dead and done someone gets the bright idea to reserect it!

Let this thread and all the false information and bad ideas contained within die!!!! PLEASE LET IT DIE!!!!!!!
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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We're done here.
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