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Old 06-29-06, 02:56 PM
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im confused on what to do. advice please!

ok, heres the situation. im not rich, money is an issue.

i currently own a 1989 non turbo gtu-s.
i want to sell it and get a 10th ae tii, i have roughly 3000$ to spend. but wouldnt mind spending a total of about 5k for a fully running car with not too high miles.

i will have to buy the 10th ae car first so i will have a car to drive, and then sell the gtu-s.
most 10th ae i see, require an engine rebuild.

now, heres the complicated part. i have never done an engine rebuild before so i dont even know where to start. im not too familar with all these engine lingo ppl be using.

from what i been reading on the forums, i want to port my engine. but theres so many different kinds and i dont even know whats what and whats the difference nor which one should i get. theres like street port and bridge port and exhaust port etc. i dont know what any of those mean.

what is the most cost effective way?
since i will most likely be needing an engine rebuild anyways, why not port it to get an extra performance boost. i read on the forums about poorly done engine rebuilds and portings with leaking seals (whatever that means), over heating etc. i dont want to pay 2000+ dollars for a rebuild thats not working correctly.

where can i get an engine rebuild? should i ship the engine? should i find some place to doit locally? or should i just buy another engine? where can i buy that?

the only place i found was a site called http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/ it was fairly priced but i will have to take out the engine, which i dont know how, and then ship it to them, and thats gonna cost a few hundred. and paying someone to take the engine out and put it back in is probably gonna cost another few hundred.... im at lost on what to do...

im located in san francisco, california btw.

i have no idea how much this is gonna cost. and which is the best and most efficient way. can someone please advise me? thanks

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How do you know that you want to port your engine if you don't know anything about them?
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Originally Posted by xUnKnOwNx
where can i get an engine rebuild? should i ship the engine? should i find some place to doit locally? or should i just buy another engine? where can i buy that?

the only place i found was a site called http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/ it was fairly priced but i will have to take out the engine, which i dont know how, and then ship it to them, and thats gonna cost a few hundred. and paying someone to take the engine out and put it back in is probably gonna cost another few hundred.... im at lost on what to do...

im located in san francisco, california btw.

i have no idea how much this is gonna cost. and which is the best and most efficient way. can someone please advise me? thanks
Kevin (rotaryresurrection) does great work and I recommend him, but I believe is pretty backed up right now, You might also want to get with Ben (Karack on the board here), as he is near Sac, and might not be as backed up as Kevin. Although I have not had a motor built by Ben, many of the Nor Cal guys I talk to have.
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How do you know that you want to port your engine if you don't know anything about them?
i kind of read up on it a bit, it gives better air flow and stuff, but overall, im mainly interested in the performance boost.
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Don't dive in the deep end of the pool if you don't know how to swim.


From the sounds o your post I get the impression that you aren't too wrench savvy, my reccomendation for you to get into the world of turbo rotary is this:

Its alot easier (and cheaper) to buy a good running STOCK (or as close to as possible) RX-7 than buying a beat to sh*t one and finding out that you're in over your head with pulling the motor and rebuilding it.

So basically, spend the extra grand for a nice clean and strong running car, drive it and slowly build up your wrenching confidence with that car until one day years from now it needs a rebuild, by then you'll hve the experience and contacts to make it easy and enjoyable.

If you buy one that needs a tonne of work and you aren't that prepared to dive in yourself, you'll only end up "drowning" and re-selling the car at a loss.

edit: and as far as the boost in performance concerned......you drive a GTU now? a stock TII is one HELL of a performance boost over the N/A...it will wet your whistle for a long while before you go on a pilgrimage for horsepower.
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Originally Posted by classicauto
Don't dive in the deep end of the pool if you don't know how to swim.


From the sounds o your post I get the impression that you aren't too wrench savvy, my reccomendation for you to get into the world of turbo rotary is this:

Its alot easier (and cheaper) to buy a good running STOCK (or as close to as possible) RX-7 than buying a beat to sh*t one and finding out that you're in over your head with pulling the motor and rebuilding it.

So basically, spend the extra grand for a nice clean and strong running car, drive it and slowly build up your wrenching confidence with that car until one day years from now it needs a rebuild, by then you'll hve the experience and contacts to make it easy and enjoyable.

If you buy one that needs a tonne of work and you aren't that prepared to dive in yourself, you'll only end up "drowning" and re-selling the car at a loss.

edit: and as far as the boost in performance concerned......you drive a GTU now? a stock TII is one HELL of a performance boost over the N/A...it will wet your whistle for a long while before you go on a pilgrimage for horsepower.
Very sound advice...
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Originally Posted by classicauto
Don't dive in the deep end of the pool if you don't know how to swim.


From the sounds o your post I get the impression that you aren't too wrench savvy, my reccomendation for you to get into the world of turbo rotary is this:

Its alot easier (and cheaper) to buy a good running STOCK (or as close to as possible) RX-7 than buying a beat to sh*t one and finding out that you're in over your head with pulling the motor and rebuilding it.

So basically, spend the extra grand for a nice clean and strong running car, drive it and slowly build up your wrenching confidence with that car until one day years from now it needs a rebuild, by then you'll hve the experience and contacts to make it easy and enjoyable.

If you buy one that needs a tonne of work and you aren't that prepared to dive in yourself, you'll only end up "drowning" and re-selling the car at a loss.

edit: and as far as the boost in performance concerned......you drive a GTU now? a stock TII is one HELL of a performance boost over the N/A...it will wet your whistle for a long while before you go on a pilgrimage for horsepower.

your right about me not being "wrench savvy". the reason why im asking is because many 10th ae rx7 has really high mileage and some needs engine rebuilts. it is really rare to find some with low miles. the ones i found are actually in pretty good condition except that they need a engine rebuilt.

the reason why i want to port the engine is because eventually i want to have a fix up and mod the car. since im in the market for a rebuild anyways, it seems like a good place to start.
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Yeah I see your motivation but speaking from experience (in most cases) you will run into more problems then just an engine rebuild if you buy a car that is in need of one. Simply being that by this point a 7 with a blown motor that is for sale either:

a)blew up because some yahoo ran the bag off the car and as probably damaged numerous other components in the process.

b)wasn't running properly but some yahoo drove it till it popped. Meaning you can rebuild the engine but will then have to chase down the gremilns that caused it to blow in the first place.

c) LEAST LIKELY BUT STILL POSSIBLE - was well maintained and looked after, and just simply needs a rebuild.


Now, with all that said - the hunt for c) {which is what you'll be looking for} will be a bigger hunt then finding a decent running 10AE or even straight TII for that matter. Not to mention the fact that a well maintained, clean TII or 10AE that ONLY needs a rebuild will probably go for 1000 less then a good running one, and the rebuild alone will cost you more than the difference.

The only reason I am advising to buy a good running one is because you will need to be much more familiar with many other aspects of the car than the motor/rebuild alone before you even think about partillay doing any kind of motor removal or rebuilding and having one that runs and drives will make the learning curve so much smoother.
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