demahfahbun106

Ok heres the deal i have a 87 t2 with a jdm motor about 70,xxx miles now, racing beat turbo back exhaust,hks super megaflow intake, walbro 255lph fuel pump, no emissions, no heat, ac, all that good stuff lol...nothing but just a motor under my hood...anyways.....my question is........is this 13b-re swap really worth it? or should i just keep my money and put it into my 13b??? also how hard is this swap, how expensive would it be and like i said...is it worth it....please dont give me links to the fc pro site because i been there already and YES it has given me an idea of what i am looking at but then againi would like to hear it form ohter who have attempted this swap..honestly i wont be keeping the stock twins because i've heard it is hard to control them, so i am considering replacingit with a stock s4/s5 turbo (only if it is possible) also i know i should be thinking about a bigger turbo but its just a thought for now...also i already have a haltech E6K so and ecu isnt a problem and if i DO go with a single turbo set-up with this RE motor would i be able to keep my Racing beat exhaust?????? that hting is toooo cool lol....thanks in advance.

demahfahbun106

anyone wanna take a crack at this one? thanks

rx7onfire

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The major benefits of the RE swap are the much larger ports, thicker rear iron, and the ability to make more power than the TII motors. You can use the twins if you do the swap, just set them up non-sequential, they will make more power than an S4 or S5 turbo. You can use your racing beat exhaust, you will just have to get a different down pipe made. The swap is not too terribly hard, not too terribly expensive if you don't go overboard like I did, and the capabilities of the motor are far greater. PM me if you have any other questions. I've done a handful of these swaps.

NOPR

using an s4/s5 turbo on an -RE would REALLY suck. the s5 and s44 turbos cant hold more than 8 pounds to redline on a stock port t2 engine. on the -re's mega ports, it'll be twice as bad. if you aren't pushing that much horsepower, theres no reason to change. you will be gaining absolutely nothing by doing it. your best bet is to upgrade the turbo in the current engine, then if/when it pops/cracks the rear iron, you can upgrade to -RE or S5 T2.

demahfahbun106

yea i figured that stock turbo would have been an issue bt like i iad i'm tyring to do anything possible so that i can keep my RB exhaust....what if i just went with like a to4e 60-1 or maybe like a 62-1 turbo??would that be better?? would i get to use my rb dp aswell?? also are all of the injectors side fed??? thanks again

rx7onfire

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no matter what with the RE swap you are going to have to fab a new downpipe, its not that big of a deal. You can keep the rest of the RB exhaust though. Either on of the turbos would be a good setup for the street, but your looking at a lot more work. Even if you put the stock s4 turbo back on that motor, you will still need to modify the DP as the motor sits in the chassis a little different with the available mounts. As far as injectors go the primaries are side feed and the secondaries are top feed.

snowball

if your woried about your downpipe this is not the swap for you.

MaczPayne

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Stick with what you have now, and make it more robust. That's my advice for ya.

Madrx7racer

how much power are you looking to get?

demahfahbun106

hey honestly i am hoping to hit atleast 350 whp...do you think that possible with just the TO4E 60-1/62-1, 12 psi, 3inch exhaust,walbro, front mount and haltech??? i honestl want to attempt this swap...i thnk i could really get a start off with it when i sell my T2 stuff...motor,ecu,harness.... wel let me know what you guys think...as of now i am really leaning towards this swap..but i would really need some money i can see...maybe about $2500 jus to get it running stock?? let me know thanks again....

Madrx7racer

well you can hit 350 on the 13BT.........if you're hell bent on wasting money then do it.........but I think for your power goals the swap will not be cost effective considering you have a decent motor already.........

what about the 13B-RE makes you want it so badly?

bcool

Agreed, those power goals are acheiveable with a standard 13BT with the same supporting modifications. The thing thats going to hold this setup together is the tuning. If it does blow up then you always have the option to buy the 13B-RE for slightly more and slap all of your components on that motor if you really want to go that route .

Madrx7racer

but all the work for the extra 5 HP?

demahfahbun106

yes i realize that i can hit that hp goal with my t2 motor right now BUT i think that it would be more safer with the re motor..also its just the thought of a twin turbo motor in a fc is what draws me to the swap..that and it gives me something else to do with my car...something different i guess...for right now i was lookiong at just 350whp but that was just to get the car running period...my hp goals would later increase after i see that the car is up and running...also i wanted to get this car running witht the re swap by march, my personal b-day gift lol...but like i was saying, i figured if i were to sell my t2 motor and anything that i wouldnt need to run the re in the car i would have maybe half of what is needed..which i beleive is a good start than to rather build up my motor and god forbid it pops then i have to start from ZERO...but hey its still in thought and i would have to make up my mind by maybe the end of this month or maybe next month...thanks again for the info and anyone else want to bless this thread with some knowledge?

Madrx7racer

it seems to me like you don't know what you want.......good luck. The twin turbo argument is kinda silly in my book.........most people tend to ditch the twins and go single.........it's your $$$ and time though....... let me now how much you want for the full T2 swap if you decide to go RE.

demahfahbun106

ok guys i have finally thought about it and made up my mind....i am going to part out my car right now and whatever money i get from the part out i am going to get the motor and get it rebuilt at the same time......then when all is well and i am ready(over a few months maybe till feb or march) i am going to go find me a CLEAN *** T2 body but this time i'm going to look for a black one with black interior with maybe a blown motor or no motor at all....over the time i should have everything together and i think by getting the motor first and doing what has to be done to it, then that would push me to get a donor car but a clean *** one...i will be lookgin for a nice donor car from the minute i get rid of my t2...so n e one kno n e one that has a black t2 for sale let me know......black or red..but it has to b an s5 body....thanks again....oh and tell me what you think about this idea.....if too mnay ppl disagree obviously i am not going to do it lol..thanks again

rotarydelight

Good Luck Trying To Find Another Fc. Drive The Car The Way It Is Now, Save Some Money Until It Blows Sell Your Excess Parts Then Maybe Think Re If You Have Like 3 An A Half G's

Madrx7racer

it's your money........i told you what I thought......but you do what you want.

Mushy B

wow man you've got some high hopes.... goodluck with what you do

slo

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stock RE twins suck, at @ 5000 ft elevation 95F my 13bre swap dyno was @ 260WHP 11PSI They could probably break 300 on a cold day at sea level where boost would stay longer twords redline. But they still suck.

And non sequential they don't reach full boost till 5000 + RPM

The 13b-re swap route isn't all that its cracked up to be, my car will never be smog legal. I don't regret building the car up but I wish I would have gone with a JSPEC T2 instead. I could have fully rebuilt my motor with the money I would have saved, and been smog legal once every 2 years.

Madrx7racer

stop making sense!!!!! people don't like that.

demahfahbun106

yea i have high hopes but thats what makes the swap what it is.....i am going to try my best and actually see what can be done with this motor...i am willing to go broke over this swap just because i can say i did it and accomplished alot....yea you guys have dont the swap before and think it was a waste but i wanna see for myself....i rather try my best and fail than to not try and keep wondering lol...but "SLO" what were your mods on the RE at the time of dyno???? i am going to go with a 62-1 turbo and the regular mods,pump,3inch,front mount and a nice streetport..like i said i am willing to go broke lol..oh and i honestly dont think i need $3,500 for this swap to get it running..minus turbo swap and other mods, just talking bout stock form....thanks for the info...and "slo" get back at me

KeloidJonesJr.

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That sounds like alot of money.

Madrx7racer

post your price list in here............go search for everything you need, post it here and then decide.

demahfahbun106

ok guys i made up my mind.. I am going forward with this project... heres my forsale thread with pictures....pm me or post in it....thanks


https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...22#post6132522