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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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Illuminas vs. Koni Yellows?

I know the Koni's are better but are they worth the extra money if i'm a pretty poor guy? lol. Anyone who has ridden with both and has experience with both sets?
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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I havent had much experence with the Illuminas, but i am in love with my konis. the 2 2nd gens ive owned have had em. great shock
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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i dont have input on the yellows but i have read up many comparisons between the illuminas and the KYB agx shocks. Just something that may help you judge in what may be best for you -alex
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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I have illuminas, love em'
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 95R2-89TII Ground Zero
I have illuminas, love em'
ditto
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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I have Koni's there very nice, my friend had illuminas they were on the hard side car shook like a **** but handled great. I love my konis tho
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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I love my Yellows. Have had them for close to four years now. I have them with the RB suspension package.

Here is my write up.

http://pws.gamewood.net/~mb800/struts/struts.html

James
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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If you just have a street car, any adjustable is overkill.
The Tokico Illuminas have 5 detent settings.
The Koni Race (yellows) have a continuously variable adjustment which is 2 full turns lock-to-lock.

Unfortunately, both dampers have adjustments at the top of the shaft.
For the fronts, this is not a problem, but if you like your stock rear speakers, this might be a problem.

An alternative is the KYB AGX's.
4-way adjustment front and 8-way adjustment rears
The fronts are top adjustable, but the rears are bottom adjustable.
This allows you to keep your stock rear speakers intact.

The Koni Race dampers are desgined for hard-core racers.
They have the widest damping adjustment out of any of the abovementioned brand.
They can be rebuildable.
They are overkill for a street vehicle.


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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 09:12 AM
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As far as quality and performance, are the KYB AGX's inferior to the Koni's or Tokico's?
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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i run tokico illuminas and i love them. i wll go with nothing different.
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RETed
If you just have a street car, any adjustable is overkill.
The Tokico Illuminas have 5 detent settings.
The Koni Race (yellows) have a continuously variable adjustment which is 2 full turns lock-to-lock.

Unfortunately, both dampers have adjustments at the top of the shaft.
For the fronts, this is not a problem, but if you like your stock rear speakers, this might be a problem.

An alternative is the KYB AGX's.
4-way adjustment front and 8-way adjustment rears
The fronts are top adjustable, but the rears are bottom adjustable.
This allows you to keep your stock rear speakers intact.

The Koni Race dampers are desgined for hard-core racers.
They have the widest damping adjustment out of any of the abovementioned brand.
They can be rebuildable.
They are overkill for a street vehicle.


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What do you see as a "street vehicle"? This car will be going to drag strips but mostly autox events, but will also be my daily driver.
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by End3r
As far as quality and performance, are the KYB AGX's inferior to the Koni's or Tokico's?
They are all great quality items.
You cannot go wrong with any of them.
I prefer the KYB AGX's over the Tokico's due to the wider damping range, and K2RD has put them through race-track abuse without failure.


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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ocelot
What do you see as a "street vehicle"? This car will be going to drag strips but mostly autox events, but will also be my daily driver.
I would consider that a "street vehicle".

A "race vehicle" would almost be a trailer queen, although you can easily drive it around to events.
It would be a dedicated race vehicle or a top-tier SCCA atuocross competitor (i.e. consistent Nationals qualifier).
If you do racing "for fun", the Tokico or KYB AGX is fine.
If you do racing "to WIN", go with the Koni's.
You can get the Koni's converted to double-adjustable, which would give you more flexibility on adjustment.


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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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I believe the Tokico's and Koni's have lifetime warranties; does that hold true for the KYB's?
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