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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 10:01 AM
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Identify This Engine?

I'm thinking of buying this engine, but I"m not sure what year it actually is, and I can't go see it in person. The owner says it's a S4 N/A but I'm not sure.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 10:06 AM
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 10:10 AM
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Thats an '84-'85 GSL-SE 1st gen engine. If you have a 2nd gen I wouldn't recommend it. I have a GSL-SE though so I might be.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 11:03 AM
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yah, that motor would be really hard to fit in the fc...

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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 11:05 AM
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I'm guessing thats the engine that you found in the U.S. that the guy couldn't ID? Shitty dude, keep looking through man. You'll find one eventualy
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 12:07 PM
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What if I just use the block, to fit in a S5 N/A(with a blown engine but everything else)?
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 01:16 PM
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What if I just use the block, to fit in a S5 N/A(with a blown engine but everything else)?
If you just use the block your going to have problems...that's a 4 port. FC 13B NAs use 6 port blocks.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 01:33 PM
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no go buddy. Keep looking for the right one.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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I thought the gslse had a 6port?
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 02:05 PM
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nope gslse only had two injectors also
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 03:00 PM
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Oh well, anyone want the guys email? He's got 2 of em, drop me a PM. He was wanting $500 usd each, but I'm sure he'll go for less, he claims that there low milage and will run.

On another note, could i use the rotors and e-shaft from this one to rebuild my S5 engine?
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 03:04 PM
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NO...use s5 parts....youll find out that the parts get better throughout the years dont downgrade...
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 03:07 PM
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Hey, I noticed you're in BC. Where abouts?

Send me a PM, I may be able to help you out.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 03:16 PM
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Oh well, anyone want the guys email? He's got 2 of em, drop me a PM. He was wanting $500 usd each, but I'm sure he'll go for less, he claims that there low milage and will run.

On another note, could i use the rotors and e-shaft from this one to rebuild my S5 engine?
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 03:25 PM
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On another note, could i use the rotors and e-shaft from this one to rebuild my S5 engine?
No.
Why do you need a new e-shaft?
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 03:55 PM
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The GSL-SE does have a 6-port. Yes it only does have 2 injectors.

A couple of major problems when trying to retrofit it into a 2nd gen. The motor mounts on that engine are on the front cover. The 2nd gen has mounts on the intermediate housing. Nothing internally is interchangable between engines except the e-shaft.

scathcart is correct. You can't interchange rotors between the two engines. The actual rotor shape is different by a few thousandths of an inch. Some people have interchanged them but it isn't recommended due to he increased risk of the rotors physically hitting the housings at high rpm's. Why would you need a new e-shaft? also the earlier rotors and counterweights are 1 pound heavier each. You'd need the corresponding flywhell too. Just go find the right engine. It will be easier.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 04:03 PM
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to clear up the confusion
1. the 84-85 13b engines do have 6 ports
2. they have 2 680cc injectors
3. it will not fit in the fc, it mounts on the front cover, not the center housing
4. the e shaft is better in the gsl-se, it doesnt have the thermal pellet.
5. the rotors are worse, they are heavy and have 3mm seals

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