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I want to eliminate my dual exhauste i need your opinion

Old Nov 3, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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How bout the best of both worlds?

True duel with a single side exit!...Anyone ever done this on an FC?

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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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True dual = 2 exits. Apparently the long tube to the rear axle exhausts have lost favour with most tuners.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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My exhaust does have two exits.





Duel ALL the way back. See?
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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I don't think that anyone here was disagreeing with that.
Well how can there be any ounces that don't count? That's why that statement is so silly, just like saying "it all adds up". How could it not?

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Many supercars, the Lotus Elise/Exige and some others come with essentially no interiors, just the bare carbon body showing through, they must be crappy
Yeah, the inside of an Elise looks just the same as the inside of a stripped FC...

I've got an NA, not a turbo, so 3" is likely overkill.
Oops, when you said you had an RB system I assumed turbo. My bad.

Originally Posted by '84-12A-GSL
How bout the best of both worlds?

True duel with a single side exit!...Anyone ever done this on an FC?
The whole point of the FC's stock exhaust configuration is being able to use two parallel mufflers for better noise suppression. Running two pipes to one muffler would be a waste of that opportunity.

Originally Posted by '84-12A-GSL
My exhaust does have two exits.
This thread is about dual rear mufflers, not dual tips. It's also about FC's...
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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How bout the best of both worlds?

True duel with a single side exit!...Anyone ever done this on an FC?
Best of what worlds? Performance and sound? True dual is not always the best option for performance. You loose the scavenging effect which can help n/a engines remove the exhaust from the opposing chamber that is entering the exhausting cycle.

True dual is non-existant on turbo'd engines.

Now 2 single runners merged somewhere under the car would be a good option. Those merged headers do have a reason behind them. I forget if moving the merge point back increases low end or high end. I remember reading something about it a while back.

This thread is about dual rear mufflers, not dual tips. It's also about FC's...
How much you want to bet the internal design of that pacesetter muffler has to seporate perforated tubes It may be a single muffler but it may do the job as two.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaMan99
True dual is non-existant on turbo'd engines.
Not if you have two turbos...

How much you want to bet the internal design of that pacesetter muffler has to seporate perforated tubes It may be a single muffler but it may do the job as two.
It won't do the same job as two mufflers of the same external dimensions, which is the whole point of the FC's dual exhaust. The physical size of the can effects a muffler's performance. Ask anyone with those silly N1-style mufflers...
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Not if you have two turbos...
lol, your right.

It won't do the same job as two mufflers of the same external dimensions, which is the whole point of the FC's dual exhaust. The physical size of the can effects a muffler's performance. Ask anyone with those silly N1-style mufflers...
good point.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Well my post was more less a joke, when I said "the best of both worlds" I was joking around cause people were arguing that duel is better and other were saying single is better, so I posted my exhaust, cause it is a duel exhaust system, but exits on one side.

And the Pace Setter actually has one large perforated tube, than joins back into two separate exits. So there is a cross over point. Probably doesn't have the same affects of an "X" or "H" pipe, but I would imagine increases the scavenging affect.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by '84-12A-GSL
And the Pace Setter actually has one large perforated tube, than joins back into two separate exit.
I see two pipes in, two pipes out...
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Well if you shown a flash light into the muffler you would see that that two pipes enter a large expansion chamber and that exits into two resonated tips.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Ah, so it's a chambered muffler, not a straight-though one. That's not quite what you said before ("one large perforated tube").
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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No it is straight through, it isnt a chambered muffler.

I just called it an expansion chamber, doesn't mean its a chambered muffler.

Ever see a pipe on a 2-stroke bike, how it goes from small to big than back to small, thats called an expansion chamber.

My exhaust goes from two small ones, into one large one, than back onto two small ones, the gases expand when they reach the large one, because they travel from a small space to a large one.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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If it has an expansion chamber, it's a chambered muffler and it's not straight-through. The names are strong clues.

Your posts also have nothing to do with this thread...
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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Dude, it's just a name, Ill take a pic of the inside of the muffler if you want.

There's no baffles, you can look right through it

And I'm strictly answering to your comments, there for your posts responding to my original post have nothing to do with this thread.
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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I have decided what am doing to do with my exhaust Am going Single
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Ravingecu21
I have decided what am doing to do with my exhaust Am going Single
Are you gonna use any major brands like Apexi, HKS, Corksoprt... cause I wanna go single on my 88' GTU. Im thinkin RS*R GTII cat-back and racing beat headers and presilencer.
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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i already have a apexi N1 dual just goingto eliminate one of them
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ravingecu21
i already have a apexi N1 dual just goingto eliminate one of them
So you're going to cut the flow in half?
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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no i have a friend that welds he is going to modify it
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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i think that's the same thing if u just cut up the y-pipe and weld it ****.
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ravingecu21
no i have a friend that welds he is going to modify it
The two pipes after the Y will be smaller than the one before it, so simply blanking one pipe off will reduce flow considerably.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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i know that thats why am modifying it
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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Modifying it how exactly?
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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Yea, this NZ guy^ has no clue what he is talking about. In autocross one millisecond could mean 1st place or 1st loser. Taking 30 pounds out of the rear of your car is amazing, autocrossers dont remove the spare, jack, tools, kleenex box for nothing..... obviously you have never done any sort of sanctioned racing.
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by yozsi
Yea, this NZ guy^ has no clue what he is talking about. In autocross one millisecond could mean 1st place or 1st loser. Taking 30 pounds out of the rear of your car is amazing, autocrossers dont remove the spare, jack, tools, kleenex box for nothing..... obviously you have never done any sort of sanctioned racing.
Okay, I don't auto-x (yet), but a millisecond? Is the timing equipment even that accurate? Or is this another exaggeration?
Modified how is a good question, since I'd imagine that you'd just hack off the muffler and weld it to some larger piping since you're making it dual? Did I read that right? Doesn't seem too effective to me.
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