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Mazda OEM
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I need Your Opinion on Apex Seals
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djessence
Mazda seals are way underrated. Last a long time, can handle a decent amount of boost (which doesnt matter in your case). Good seals.
Havent heard anything bad about atkins, and actually have a set to put in my rebuild pretty quick
Havent heard anything bad about atkins, and actually have a set to put in my rebuild pretty quick
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RA seals don't SOUND bad, haven't owned an RX with them in the motor
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rotors excite me
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FYI: RA = Rotary Aviation, not Atkins Rotary
One thing people have faced with Atkins seals is that they may expand slightly and or simply start out longer than the housings are wide, sometimes leading to engine failure. This can be completely avoided if you clearance your seals instead of just dropping them in, assuming that they are the correct dimensions. Just yesterday I clearanced my OEM seals to be about .002" smaller than my housings and I had to take off about .0024" to get them at the spec I wanted (for a turbo build). If I had just dropped them in even those may have done some damage.
One thing people have faced with Atkins seals is that they may expand slightly and or simply start out longer than the housings are wide, sometimes leading to engine failure. This can be completely avoided if you clearance your seals instead of just dropping them in, assuming that they are the correct dimensions. Just yesterday I clearanced my OEM seals to be about .002" smaller than my housings and I had to take off about .0024" to get them at the spec I wanted (for a turbo build). If I had just dropped them in even those may have done some damage.
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Thats about how I feel (except that I would never use RA seals). Atkins break in easier and could seal a little better on worn housings, but ultimately won't last as long as OEM's. When you start with used housings, the housings will probably give out before the apex seals get too worn. When you start with new housings, spend the extra cost to the the OEM's as they will last the life of the engine. I had 215k on my engine and the seals were still decent when it was torn down for a coolant seal failure, and that was the old 3 piece seals.
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so you got pistons oh wow
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they are both good seals but for an N/A I would just go with OEM unless your doing any kind of porting. I'm in the process of building a motor. I went with SCR seals but I'm planning on running with high boost
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This build will be from a used block that had a coolant passage that blew out on me. I have all ready replaced the rear iron that was blown. All the other parts are in good condition and will be used.
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Thats about how I feel (except that I would never use RA seals). Atkins break in easier and could seal a little better on worn housings, but ultimately won't last as long as OEM's. When you start with used housings, the housings will probably give out before the apex seals get too worn. When you start with new housings, spend the extra cost to the the OEM's as they will last the life of the engine. I had 215k on my engine and the seals were still decent when it was torn down for a coolant seal failure, and that was the old 3 piece seals.
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