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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by fluffysheap
Not rumored, EVERY 2nd gen in Japan was turbo.

I have NEVER seen pictures of a TII with a factory automatic transmission. You?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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If all FC's in Japan came with turbo's....just what exactly do you expect an auto to have in Japan? It's not rocket science, but perhaps you could use some scratch paper to do some calculations on?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by EclipsedbytheMoon
If all FC's in Japan came with turbo's....just what exactly do you expect an auto to have in Japan? It's not rocket science, but perhaps you could use some scratch paper to do some calculations on?
find me pictures of a TII automatic. better yet, find me a TII 3.90 gearset. that is what the original point was about in the first place.


get back to me when you find that gearset. until then i will be waiting with my scratch paper, smart ***.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:43 AM
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i hope this helps you, i never finished reading the entire thread
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?p=6662835
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sub9lulu
i hope this helps you, i never finished reading the entire thread
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?p=6662835
That is a good thread. There is a lot of good information in there. I do think that the T56 is more than this guy would need though. I can tell you from first hand experience that the T56 is a bit clunkier as far as shifting goes than any Japanese manual transmission I have ever used. It is capable of handling a decent bit of power though so that plays a role.


IIRC The f body T56 has a .75 5th gear overdrive and a .5 6th gear overdrive.


Once you got into 6th the car would proably stop pulling anyway.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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I have NEVER seen pictures of a TII with a factory automatic transmission. You?
Then you haven't looked hard enough. I got an S4 T2 front clip from Japan.

Also to the kid who started this thread. Didn't Dave's unfortunate death teach you anything. By the way I checked out your "mods" list at the begining at the thread and your smoking crack if you think your car has enough to truly smoke a 911. Maybe in your dillusions you saw yourself kicking his ***, but from his vantage he wasn't even trying to race you. He probably barey even noticed the kid in the smelly, loud, and and most likely beat-up porsche 944 looking car driving like a fool while sipping his latte. I like how you only cruise at late night....not. The only other cars on the road at that time are drunk drivers and cops. Real smart man...not. Sorry to be a dick everyone, but this thread is rediculous and needs to be sent to the "kills section" with the rest of the morons. Dude before your next high speed run why don't you go and talk to the girl Dave had a head-on and gain some wisdom.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 02:00 AM
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the clip was factory automatic. Sorry
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 02:16 AM
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ok well I guess this was a bad Idea......I wasnt really gonna do it but, It was just a thought. I'm just gonna go back to a-spec. Icemark, or whoever send this thread to downtown!
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 02:28 AM
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[/QUOTE][QUOTE]You cant hit 200 in this car. First of all its gear limited. You would need a custom rear end. Secind it takes a butt load of power and good aerodynamics to hit 200. The C6 Z06 is only good to 198 mph and its rated at 505 hp. Most people are dynoing mid 400's at the wheels, so its certainly underrated. 200mph+ is almost an unpassable number on a street driven car.[QUOTE]

? wouldnt mid 400's (450) at the wheels be 500 at the -eShaft
? Wouldnt "good aerodynamics" for 200 mean a .31 cd? .31 is closer to the reg vetts cd then the zo6 34?
im just thinkin outloud
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 02:30 AM
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custom rear end? What about a motor that makes power at 8750 rpm .
is that possible
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 02:39 AM
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god, nobody reads the whole thread anymore, look, he wants his car to be around 2k at 60-75 mph thats it, and he said 17year old CAR not his age.
damn.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 02:42 AM
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can we please just say "3.90 gears, different final drive in tranny, or power in high rpms" and call this thread slaughtered?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DriftingB26RX7
what tranny could I put in to make this happen with few mods as posabile. I'm running a j-spec tranny right now that I dont really like cuz when if 5th I'm already at 4500 on my a-spec I chilled at 3500...but when I hit 150 I start to top out. In the a-spec I did 172, in 5th at 6700rpm. anyone have any ideas??
I highly doubt there was a 1000rpm difference between the same speeds. That would be a serious gearing difference.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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Remember kiddies the stock speed o isn't accurate at those kinds of speeds. 172 on the gauge may have been 155.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by theantirotor
3.90 diff wont work unless you can find a JDM TII that had an auto (which is rumored to exist)
Rumored? All FC's in Japan were turbo'd, and somewhere between a quarter and a third of were automatic. They used the same 4.1:1 diff as the manuals.

I have NEVER seen pictures of a TII with a factory automatic transmission.
You've never seen a picture so it can't be true right?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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some-one said you people need to slow down..i hear that..people in the NE region threads no what happened to me..in my 87 gxl i was doing 45mph,and some ***=hole in a lexus pulled out in front of mel, and i hit him it was his fault..and my car crumbled they had to cut me out..now i got 2 broken ankles and i cant walk..theirs no reason to do over a 100mph..unless your at the track..later
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GT1-20b
Announcement:
Getrag W-160 6 speed ...OEM for Supra TT 2Jz adapted to Mazda 20b/ 13b
" TOTALY BOLT ON KIT "
No fab work, no welding, completly BOLT ON. and w/ off the shelf related components.
All CAD, CNC'd & Water Jet.
Adaptor plate, Dedicated Starter, Hardware, Trans Mount, Anular Release TO bearing,
Shifter Tripod, Instructions, Everything !
You supply gearbox
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a) On the contrary, the W-160 is substantially shorter than the FD's
b) It will require a custome made drive shaft.
c) Every custom part required for convertion, I have made up except drive shaft.
d) There is only one set of ratios available for this box, as it was Type Specific
for the TT Supra, but the grear drops are closer that the FD's and very
favoravble for rotaries specially w/ an Auto's 3.90
e) You will have to buy some components, ie: clutch, Flywheel, but all
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Are there dog-ring conversions available for this tranny?
I found one for the Gertrag V-160 6-speed offered by PPG. What is the differecne in case/internals design betweent the V and W versions?
http://www.powerhouseracing.com/file...ine%20Upgrades
Here is the thread:
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...=618433&page=4

I may be in line for this if I can get the dog ring conversion.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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Get the TII to NA driveshaft and you can use a 3.90 NA rear end in your TII.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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This thread is amusing.

If the J-spec TII trans has too short of a final drive ratio go the the A-spec trans. S5 TII has slightly taller 5th than S4 TII.

If you do the calculation based on actual ratios and tire diameter a S4 TII is doing 178mph at 7,800 rpm fuel cut.

It is no problem to hit that w/ stock turbo and lots of boost creep as boost creep gives you more HP and torque the higher the rpm.

Dead stock the S4 TIIs did over 150mph. FC was designed in the windtunnel and has better aerodynamics than most cars past/present including the FD.

In 1985 RB did 238 mph w/ *just* 500 hp in an all stock body class TII.

It doesn't take much straight road to top out a modded S4 TII. W/ ~400 hp 1 mile will do it.

It will quickly toast your trans rear seal and you risk getting trans oil on you hot exhaust. The only fix I have heard of is to weld material on the tail housing, bore and install a needle bearing and new seal w/ a modified driveshaft yolk.

Or replace a lot of rear seals and risk fire.

Don't attempt this when there is another living person in harms reach!
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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Thread cleand up as much as it can be. Please keep it clean. There is no excuse for some of the posts here by members who should know better...
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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if you have a TII making big power and a broad powerband, you'd want LESS gears, not more!

I'd be happy with a 4spd in my car, and to be able to trap in 3rd in the 1/4 and have much taller 1st.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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The J-spec has a lower 5th gear.

Crack it open and put a US-spec 5th gear in it.

Problem solved. (You'd do good to replace the syncros while you're at it)

*pointed out the obvious*
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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The Auto FD has 3.9 gears in it, perhaps you could get some of those?
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BLUE TII
This thread is amusing.

If the J-spec TII trans has too short of a final drive ratio go the the A-spec trans. S5 TII has slightly taller 5th than S4 TII.

If you do the calculation based on actual ratios and tire diameter a S4 TII is doing 178mph at 7,800 rpm fuel cut.

It is no problem to hit that w/ stock turbo and lots of boost creep as boost creep gives you more HP and torque the higher the rpm.

Dead stock the S4 TIIs did over 150mph. FC was designed in the windtunnel and has better aerodynamics than most cars past/present including the FD.

In 1985 RB did 238 mph w/ *just* 500 hp in an all stock body class TII.

It doesn't take much straight road to top out a modded S4 TII. W/ ~400 hp 1 mile will do it.

It will quickly toast your trans rear seal and you risk getting trans oil on you hot exhaust. The only fix I have heard of is to weld material on the tail housing, bore and install a needle bearing and new seal w/ a modified driveshaft yolk.

Or replace a lot of rear seals and risk fire.

Don't attempt this when there is another living person in harms reach!
Thank you!

You've made every point I was about to, and then some. Glad I read the whole thread before I posted...
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