torean

ok..first of all..i tried searching....but didnt see anything i was looking for....ok....i know which efan im going with.....now i need a fan controller, this is what i want....something that will turn on while idling/creeping in traffic, also turns on when i turn on the AC...most ready made kits only offer the temp sensor control, and nothing about the AC override....can anyone help?..thanks......


for those who ask why im going electric.....2 month ago my fan clutch broke...replaced one from the junkyard and that worked fine til last week.....even though the past few days its been workin...im sick of living on the edge....

sunshine

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I am using the flexalite variable speed controller. Its a bit pricey, but the thing works awsome. It does not turn the fan on for the first 30 seconds so as to not overload circuit. It can vary the fan speed from 60 to 100%. Then it keeps the fan on for 30 sec after you turn the motor off. It comes with all the wires, and even the thermo probe. I paid 70+ from summit.
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hugo20

Wow, nice product


Do it turn off the fan when you are 20km/h and over?

patman

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just run a wire to the fan relay from the AC compressor. there should be a wire on the compressor that is on only when the AC is on. run the wire from the compressor or inside the car or wherever you like so long as it is only on when the AC is on. put it on the same terminal as the trigger wire from the thermostat.

pat

ps if that doesnt explain it enough i can get more detailed next time

torean

hey sunshine....whats the part number for that controller?....i dont see anything on the website with those functions

sunshine

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Part# 31165-VSC

http://www.flex-a-lite.com/auto/html...cessories.html

Here ya go. I dont think Summit has it on the website, but they do sell it. YOu just need to call them.
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torean

thanks

full-cruise

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good find::: could this be usedon a ford e-fan

torean

i think so, the tauras fan i got has 3 wires attached to it.....2 needs to be + and 1 - for the fan to work....so i pretty sure its safe to say one of the + wire will go to constant while the other 12v goes to thermostat fan control......but if anyone know for sure..please let me know....i tested it by touching the wires to a jumper box....so not sure if a voltage less than 12v will work..thanks

mike

torean

ok.....after looking at alot of the aftermarket solutions for my problem i've noticed that many of them use a probe that sits outside of the rad to sense temperature.....on my T2 there are 2 coolant sensors present....one on the filler neck and one on the rad itself.....is it possible to wire the controller using the stock coolant sensor?...considering its soaked in the coolant to provide the most accurate temp readings also i do not have a aftermarket water temp guage so i do not know the exact water temp...if i were to purchase an aftermarket fan controller, how would i know what settings to set it to to provide the most efficient cooling(on when the thermostat opens)

thanks

Kenteth

Negative, One is low speed, one high speed. OEM dual speed fans=:sexy: Its because the cooling systems did not have a secondary fan for the a/c system.

i could be wrong, but a relay on the motor wouldn't serve much purpose as it would quickly overheat. Then again, it is ford.

J-Rat

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The sensor on your filler neck turns on at about 197.. Little hot for me. The 2 sensors on the radiator are 1, level.. 2, AWS sensor. It is an open/closed sensor that works pretty low in the temp range (60 deg I believe).

I personally use the thermostat systems that are sold at most parts stores. They all work pretty well, and keep the fans off when not in stop/go traffic.

Rat

torean

i tried just connecting one of the 2 hot wires...nothing until both of them are hot at the same time....who knows..maybe i have the single fan speed fan

Kenteth

I went to checkers (avanced auto parts afiliate) and asked for a temp switch... they were like "um... whats it on?" I knew right then it would be a struggle. So I elabtorated: Thermalswitch... I get "um...?" Fucktard. Needless to say if they do sell them, the guy didn't have a clue. I told him that they are used as a switch on the cooling system, specificaly used on applications where you turn an electric fan on at a defined temp. He was like "I don't think we carry anything like that."

Ok then.

Anyhow just to verify, you said the stock A/C condensor fan switch, switches at 197degF? I'm considering using it for a secondary pusher fan, and use a 190on-180 off puller fan switch. In that way, if I was hot rodding it and got it above 197 the second fan would kick on to drop it back down. Saves the price of buying two temp-switches instead of one.

Kenteth

Like I said its ford. Infact if it wasn't for fords enthusiastic influence on mazda, you probably wouldn't be trying to change mazda's original design right now anyhow :P

J-Rat

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Honestly, I just run one fan, the Black Magic 150 (which has an integral temp switch). But before I ran the Permacool with the Hayden thermoswitch, "supposedly" available from Checkers/Auto Zone.. Cant vouch for the idiots behind the counter, but I am not surprised.

As for the temp.. 197 (or there abouts) is a bit high for me.. Personal preference. I prefer to have control over when my fan kicks on.

Rat

torean

haha...thats what i thought at first...but after having the second fan clutch crap out on me.....i've decided to go with the efan..and since i cant afford paying 199 for the black magic w/ shroud or the permacool 16 incher for 100 w/o shroud........anyhow..its not just ford...fiat and almost any V6 cars will do i think...fords just been proven cause they're everywhere

torean

j-rat do u have a aftermarket water temp guage?...how else would u know when to set the fan

J-Rat

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I use divne intuition.....

Kenteth

rotor demons tell me when to shift.

torean

j-rat, which efan controller did u use?....i bought the kit with the 15A rating(226203) dont know if this will be enough to control the permacool 16incher

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patman

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you probably do have the single speed. Stock switch on T2 isnt 197 its 207...way too hot. I am using a fan i got at the junkyard right now...from an olds achieva automatic... its a 16" S-blade...works really nice, single speed, only has 2 wires, cost 15 bucks. You dont need a fancy thermostat, just get a cheap one and splice in a wire from the ac like i said before.

pat

torean

ok.....i wired up the fan today....ran the thermo switch to a 30 amp relay that triggers the permacool fan....now its acting funny....ok...first not knowing how to set the on/off temp i just waited til the engine temp guage was showing normal temp...that worked fine......guage never went above 1/8......then the problem..after i turned off the car...fan stays running...i figure this isnt a big deal..just the fact that the temp is still high enough to trigger the thermo switch....so then after 5 minutes or so the fan stops....then...maybe 10-20 minutes later fan comes back on and runs for another 3 minutes or so.....again the fan goes off and happenes again....then the 3rd time i got pissed and popped the hood, touched the rad and it was cool to the touch(the core was cool, top plastic endtank was warm)....meaning its lower than the temp i set it at.....as far as i know the contact relay i bought from radio shack is good as well as the thermo switch...unless it was defective from the factory, the wirings were done following the guides...which was idiot proof.........so how does the fan turn on even when the rad has cooled?........also i want to hook up the fan so it runs when the A/C is running....is this a good idea?....would there be problems with overcooling the car?...if not..how can i disable the stock ac fan and use the source to trigger the new one?....

one more thing...i need a ignition switch from the engine bay perferable from the passanger side.....where would be a good source to splice for the fan controller?

Digi7ech

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I haven't installed it yet but I have the permacool 16 and the Black magic temp switch.

The black magic one uses a probe which you can actually stick into the coolant stream.

So here's my setup.

Permacool (90bux)
BM Temp switch(25bux)

So I save like 80 for not having a fan shroud over the Black magic fan and get a couple more CFM than it.

I plan to make a shroud out of CF or fiberglass and make it Teh Seksay