^^^ ok, you may have a point there.

Is there any way to get a used peripheral port engine?

I think we're getting a little away from the point. I don't really need 300hp, I need to run close to 12.0 in the 1/4. So what am I lookin at to do that?

Don't tell me to search, I searched "N/A FC 12.0 in 1/4" didn't get much

*edit* I didn't get anything, its like t he engine is broken ?

 

guy said no turbo and no nos. he never said no boost. try the camden super charger + a port that'd do it for you

 

Wow.
I guess...
Supercharger and Porting.... Since he didn't specify no s/c.

And honestly even then your spending more than that vette is really worth... Just to beat a guy who could strap a 100 shot on his car and be back to being faster than you... Again.

-Austin

 

It's not possible for a street driven NA 2 rotor rotary to make that kind of power. The most I have seen out of an NA 2 rotor streetcar was a low 14 second pass. All the tweaking in the world won't drop 2.5 seconds off your quarter time. Hell, most mildly modified TURBO ROTARIES do not run 12 flat.

With my new turbo and supporting mods, I am making around 350 at the wheels now, and from a dig I would still have a run from a corvette with a good driver because rotaries are difficult to launch (lack of low end torque, combined with a car not set up for drag). Of course, from a roll I would eat one up pretty well.

Everyone (including myself) in this thread has excersized great restraint instead of flaming you, but making these statements and even asking these sorts of questions puts you in a very bad light and will eventually get you involved in a flame war.

You bought a 16 second stock 15 year old car and want to make it run with a 12 second 10 year old car.

 

I think 300hp out of a 2 rotor N/A is possible but you'll never get it to be streable and forget the quarter mile. Torque is what you need to win there.

 

ok i have been crunching some numbers and IF you can get your cars weight down below 2625lbs you will still need close to 300 hp to have a time of 12.0 sec. if your description of the vette is correct yes it is a special edition the grand sport if my memory serves me right. that car came with blue exterior with two white stripes running down the center. it should have some special badging on the interior of the car too..oh and i forgot to tell you GIVE IT UP HE IS NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT DAMN CAR!!!!

 

Mazdatrix will sell you one.

For specs on the engine: http://www.mazdatrix.com/r-20.htm

Here's the price: http://www.mazdatrix.com/getprice.as...num=MZTX-13-PP

After that you'll need a standalone system, clutch kit that will handle 300+ hp and high rpm's, turbo II tranny/driveshaft/rear end/flywheel/etc, and misc electronic bits.

Unless you have about $15k he's going to beat you.

 

26b 4 rotor and you'll beat him with out having to port. or turbo or nos. Is there any aftermarket EMS that can run 6 rotor. just carious. How much power will it make. with stock port.

 

The 26B was a peripheral port engine and to make one will cost you 50k just for the block.

 

Personally...I think people who said SC was the way to go(he did state no SC) however, i think rather than drag race against him, autocross against him. See if he will take you there, if your a good enough driver you should have it after a good street port and exhaust.


but IMOP i would say **** it and forget it. I dont think you have the time or the money to be making a PP motor that can support the power. You would also be needing a new transmission, drive shaft and dif to support the power you would be putting down.

not trying to get your hopes down but i would give it up.

 

ITB 3 Rotor on a Haltech would be able to do that. Runnin a 12 would still be pretty hard though and would take alot of practice, and tweaks. Tires suspension including. You would easily spend about 8k .

 

If it has to be NA.... LS1 FTW

 

Get a B20 with a B18 head.
ZOMG VTACK!

Seriously, I'm with everyone else here, you'll be VERY hard pressed to find an N/A FC beat a vette on anything other than an AUTO-X track. Even then, you'd need to be a damn good driver.

 

Sad to say but dropping in a V8 engine would give you that 300hp you are looking for.

Or you could spent gobs more and drop in a 20B NA :P with and nice intake

search for 20B NA FD :P

 

for a Rotary engine builder you don't know much about N/A engines,my street driven Peripheral Port runs 12's all day.

 

challenge him to a race on a mountain pass. get yourself some nice suspensions, tires and you'll win for sure.

 

why not streetable,or the quater mile?my RX3 run's 12's all day,and i drive it to the track

 

Well buddy you got yourself in a mess, my car is stripped of everything and weighs about 2300LBS, has full exhaust full intake and 105K on it, I would like to think I am pushing around 150 horsepower and I can barely keep up with early 90s camaros so you will need to have a ton of money and hope he launches horribly and misses a gear or three. When DDUB was on the forums he went ***** to the wall rebuild and didnt think the wheels would see 200 horse at sea level. Good luck

 

Yep.. Your Camero also weighed twice as much as an FC. You won't be taking a "step back" from a 280hp whale.... comparing the two cars and their driving behavior is like comparing a goose to a hummingbird.

Completely different beasts...

I had a response typed originally which was "Is this thread for real?". Reason being... if you need to ask this question, you aren't done researching. Measure twice, cut once.


EDIT: I should preface, that I do not think an NA is as fast as a 280hp camero.... I just think you may have bought the wrong car if you are looking for straight line performance rather than the "fun to drive" quality that the RX-7 is known for.

 

my $.02. 1. challenge him to a road course race 2. learn to drive 3. learn to drive really well. 4. p-port 20b or 26b shoved back to keep a 50/50 weight balance. 5 good suspension, 6. learn how to drive. 7. grow a brain, dont waste your time attempting to drag a car that can do nothing but go straight.

Good luck

ill give you a 13bt for your n/a pport 26b once you have it working.

 

Ok.

In light of the number of people (who know rotaries much better than I) that say this just isn't possible, I guess I'll give up. I'll prolly sell it (since I got it for practically nothing) and get a TII.

My neighbor will prolly talk the same ****, cuz I don't think he respects rotaries at all turbo or not. Little does he know....

I was just hoping I could build up what I already had to get the job done. But I'll prolly drive this around and work on "becoming a better driver" until I can afford to build up a turbo.

 

No.


-Ted

 

biulding a 300hp chevy 350 V* (he never said anything about no swaps did he?)would be easy and cheap compaired to biulding any power a in a N/A 2 rotor platform. thats the only way you might run what you need in the quarter. i've looked into getting at supercharger but dumped the idea when i relised for about the same i could try twin turbo which was still baddass and makes gobs more power.

 

If a S5 turbo car puts out 200 hp at the flinginwheel stock, and the NA puts out 160 stock, pray tell how you're going to extract 300 from your NA without forced induction. I gotta see this.

 

Add a couple of rotors.