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I cant find headers to fit, and i have an intake, whats option 2?

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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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I cant find headers to fit, and i have an intake, whats option 2?

what would be the next option, a good safe nitrous system? Wiring ports? something else, i really dont know, but headers wont fit my car.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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Why won't headers fit? Any 2nd gen 13B header should fit fine, but there may be custom exhaust work involved unless you buy everything from one manufacturer.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:03 PM
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well they were racing beat street headers with collectors and all, they were RESTING against the transmission and floorpan, to make em fit i had to remove all the heat shields and everything, im rather heart broke cause i REALLY needed thoes to work lol.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:11 PM
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I had a road race header, and it did come really close to the floor pan also. But it wasn't a problem. I would just put it on and not worry about it. It probably won't hurt anything, just watch and make sure it doens't melt the carpet

Or you could make your own header (assuming you have/have access to a welder)
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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im not worried about the floor, im only worried about the tranny my grandpa wont help me install it, because he said he dont want it leaving me strainded, but i can install it myself blindfolded
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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If they are hitting the car, you may be looking at bigger problems. First, check engine mounts and tranny mounts to make sure they're not worn. However, if it is hitting the tranny/car, your car is bent (or maybe the headers are bent?).
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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Re: I cant find headers to fit, and i have an intake, whats option 2?

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what would be the next option, a good safe nitrous system? Wiring ports? something else, i really dont know, but headers wont fit my car.
the headers should fit perfect. they aren't universal headers or anything. They are designed for the 13B in the FC. If they don't fit i would say call RB and make sure you have the right one. But if you do then your car is messed up.

Wiring the ports doesn't give you any power at all. just thought I let you know. Clean them if they are stuck.

NItrous would help the power but get the right stuff and do it right. Or else the motor will pop.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:19 PM
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theres alot of funny things with the car, but i know the body is straight, my motor seams level, but its not like its a concern with the floor boards, its just like close to the tranny for some reason.

one funny thing, i only have 1 cat and its almost at the ypipe, it has a transmission bolt thats too long for the hole stuck in there and some jacks have make some small messed up places in the frame rails.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:21 PM
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Then make sure the headers are not bent. If they are not, then the car is. That simple. A body shop (a GOOD ONE) can confirm.

Are you sure you have 2nd gen headers, and not 1st gen units? Or even 12A headers (which won't fit the engine)?
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:21 PM
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That's probably just the way it is made. If your worried about it, just bend it!
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:22 PM
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were would be some places to look for something bent?
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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Ask Racing Beat about fitment problems. They can probably provide measurements so you can verify your header is not bent.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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i have a bunch of pictures off the internet, and i can almost promiss the way the sucker is made it isnt bent, its in new condition and all the pics are exactly like the header.

and my shop said, they Couldnt bend the header or it would for sure break. so i dont think its bent.

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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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You need to confirm it. Looking at pictures is useless. Racing Beat has been doing this for a lot of years. Unless something is wrong with the header or car, it will fit.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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i just got a comfirmation, that the metal they make the header out of is not bendable, and it came off a car and it fit that car fine.

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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:38 PM
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someone told me when they worked on my engine, it seamed 1 inch higher than it should be, and to bolt it to the cross member.

if so how on earth could i do it?
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:49 PM
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I know that the header on my car is VERY close to the transmisson pan, the presilencers are also very close. The exhaust has been on my car for 20,000 miles and I have never had any problems whatsoever and when I mean close I can't even fit my pinkie in between them. Put the header on and don't worry about it.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:56 PM
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i cut my bracket for my heat sheild off that caused clearence problems, so i bet itll fit in there.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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Your engine should not be higher...I can't imagine how that could happen. But to be sure, just check the mounts. It is possible someone in the past used strange mounts. Yours should be round, and in total about an inch high.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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I would take Aaron's advice first and make sure that everything on you car (the engine) is where it should be, and is mounted/positioned correctly, before you start cutting heat shields off.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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There is a spacer inbetween the motor mount and subframe.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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Yes, but if the spacer is missing the engine will sit lower.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 09:34 PM
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Yeah, for some reason I was thinking it was pivoteing like right behind the engine.

Don't ask why
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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It's probably because he has an automatic FC, and the headers are designed to work with a manual transmissioned car.

Do a 5-speed swap, and then report back to us.
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