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Old 03-04-05, 04:01 AM
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how a remote starter works?

thinking of one for my 91 during winter where i have to pre-start the car and warm up my windows.

how does it work?

i know i dont leave a key in the ignition when parked, but once i remote start it, can i drive w/o the key or do i have to shut it off and start it again with the key?

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Old 03-04-05, 05:06 AM
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You leave it running, stick the key in, turn it to 'ON' and hit the brake pedal.
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Originally Posted by midnight_7
i know i dont leave a key in the ignition when parked, but once i remote start it, can i drive w/o the key or do i have to shut it off and start it again with the key?
No, if it is installed correctly the minute you put it in gear, or press the brake or clutch (if its a manual) the remote start should shut off. So you would need to put the key into the switch and ON before doing any of those things if you wanted to drive the car.
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^^ Yup what he said I have one of these on my bronco. You touch the brake pedal and fum the engine stopered.
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damn...i thought i could do a james bond thing like remote start it and drive away ...lol

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well...you could if you wanted to install it wrong, but it isnt a very good idea.. my HS english teacher remote started his car in gear one time and it drove straight into someone else's parked car....lol
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well...you could if you wanted to install it wrong, but it isnt a very good idea.. my HS english teacher remote started his car in gear one time and it drove straight into someone else's parked car....lol

plus, if you dont put the safety features in, someone can just jump in ur car and drive away without the key

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if you don't have the key in, the steering wheel will lock... so you wouldn't get to far
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how does it know how long to keep the starter going? Or do you hold the remote button down to make the starter go (like turning the key), then just let go when it gets running?
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never thought about that, wonder if it has an adjustment
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i wish someone would invent a system which uses todays technology of user ID (like the merc SL500 which doesnt require a key, but rather a transmitter you carry and the car senses it and allows u to turn the "switch" to start the car) and auto starting.

u have ur transmitter in ur pocket, you walk towards ur car and when u get within a certain programable range, the car starts on its own.
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Originally Posted by midnight_7
i wish someone would invent a system which uses todays technology of user ID (like the merc SL500 which doesnt require a key, but rather a transmitter you carry and the car senses it and allows u to turn the "switch" to start the car) and auto starting.

u have ur transmitter in ur pocket, you walk towards ur car and when u get within a certain programable range, the car starts on its own.
but what if you just wanted to get something out of the car?
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Originally Posted by TooMuch4You
but what if you just wanted to get something out of the car?
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Well it would start up, unitll you ge tout of the programmable range?
Pfft, i dunno.
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Originally Posted by Gatlin
how does it know how long to keep the starter going? Or do you hold the remote button down to make the starter go (like turning the key), then just let go when it gets running?
there are 2 ways..one is RPM mode and the other is voltage mode. The auto start unit SEES the rpm's or in voltage mode it SEES the volts. I have mine set to voltage but if I have the heater on full blast then the remote CPU does not see full voltage and tries to start the car again even if it is on an this causes the starter to grind..I am having a hard time getting the VIPER to see my RPM signal
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Originally Posted by Travelintrevor
I have mine set to voltage but if I have the heater on full blast then the remote CPU does not see full voltage and tries to start the car again even if it is on an this causes the starter to grind..I am having a hard time getting the VIPER to see my RPM signal
Then it is installed wrong.

The Viper (as all DEI) remote starts learn the RPM through the tach sense wire. Using the tach wire also prevents someone getting into the car and flooring it. With the Tach sensing it would shut down the car as soon as 3500 RPM was hit, preventing an over rev situation.

BTW I use DEI (viper) remote starters on all my cars, but I hook them up correctly with a tach input and neutral safety input being used.

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Originally Posted by midnight_7
i wish someone would invent a system which uses todays technology of user ID (like the merc SL500 which doesnt require a key, but rather a transmitter you carry and the car senses it and allows u to turn the "switch" to start the car) and auto starting.

u have ur transmitter in ur pocket, you walk towards ur car and when u get within a certain programable range, the car starts on its own.


new cars have a lot of safety features that you probably do not want, Cadillac remote start features make it so you are inaccessible to the inside of the vehicle, ie. the windows have to be all the way up, doors locked, trans in park, etc, etc, etc and the moment you open the door it shuts off. they also use the passkey system in the SRX which all you do is get into the car and push a button to start it and shut it off, the remote stays in your pocket the whole time.
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also, how does it work with Turbo Timers? If you don't have the key in won't the Turbo Timer "see" there isn't a key and then start counting down to turn off the car?
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Originally Posted by RSVampire
also, how does it work with Turbo Timers? If you don't have the key in won't the Turbo Timer "see" there isn't a key and then start counting down to turn off the car?
not if the turbo timer is installed between the ignition switch and the remote start
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oviously layering systems like that is a bad idea and causes conflicts between controllers. TTs aren't axactly all that useful of a device in FCs anyways.
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the system is installed right...and it still shuts off when overreved.....so lets not assume that no one else can do it right...there are two options for a reason

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Then it is installed wrong.

The Viper (as all DEI) remote starts learn the RPM through the tach sense wire. Using the tach wire also prevents someone getting into the car and flooring it. With the Tach sensing it would shut down the car as soon as 3500 RPM was hit, preventing an over rev situation.

BTW I use DEI (viper) remote starters on all my cars, but I hook them up correctly with a tach input and neutral safety input being used.
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Originally Posted by Karack
oviously layering systems like that is a bad idea and causes conflicts between controllers. TTs aren't axactly all that useful of a device in FCs anyways.

both work just fine..not sure why you think timers are not a useful of a device in FC's...wire it right and they work just fine..
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Originally Posted by Karack
TTs aren't axactly all that useful of a device in FCs anyways.
are you saying this because the turbos in Tii's are both oil/WATER cooled? if so what about aftermarket turbos w/o the water-cooled option?
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Originally Posted by Travelintrevor
the system is installed right...and it still shuts off when overreved.....so lets not assume that no one else can do it right...there are two options for a reason
Should not be set for voltage... not when the tach wires are so easy to get to on a FC.

Voltage set is for installers too lame to spend the extra time to do it right.
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Originally Posted by Travelintrevor
both work just fine..not sure why you think timers are not a useful of a device in FC's...wire it right and they work just fine..
Because they are completey useless on a FC with its oil and water cooled turbo...

The only cars that you want to use a turbo timer on is for cars that have only oil cooler turbos.

On a FC a Turbo timer is just rice. Rice= something that the owner thinks looks cool, but serves no real performance or mechanical purpose.
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icemark- i have a t04e 60 trim water/oil cooled turbo. after hard driving, the oil in my car was very much nuked. so i guess it depends...??


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