How much does a turbo hood weigh?
10-17-13, 12:36 AM
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How much does a turbo hood weigh?
I am trying to get a quote on shipping a turbo hood but am not sure of the weight and dimension. I can get a tape measure out to get the dimension but I don't have a scale that I can weigh it on. Does anyone know?
10-17-13, 02:03 AM
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It depends whether it is steel or aluminum. Use a magnet if you can't tell by looking.
See this archive on weights:
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-gen-arch...ff-weigh-5666/
See this archive on weights:
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-gen-arch...ff-weigh-5666/
10-17-13, 11:40 PM
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BTW, if you're thinking of shipping a hood with ups/fedex, forget it. It WILL get damaged. Trust me...I have seen MANY people try, and no one be successful at anything except f**king up an otherwise good hood. There is not an inexpensive method to securely package a hood for shipping with these services that will fall within their size and weight limits.
The only non-mickey-mouse way to ship a hood is via truck freight, in a wooden crate. Usually, this will run about $150-225 depending on locations of buyer and seller, not including the cost of building the crate which is usually about $25-35.
This is why you see that most online sellers of large body parts and ground effects kits ship via truck and not UPS/fedex.
There's not really a cheaper way of doing it properly unless you are a bulk seller/shipper who gets significant discounts on freight shipping.
The only non-mickey-mouse way to ship a hood is via truck freight, in a wooden crate. Usually, this will run about $150-225 depending on locations of buyer and seller, not including the cost of building the crate which is usually about $25-35.
This is why you see that most online sellers of large body parts and ground effects kits ship via truck and not UPS/fedex.
There's not really a cheaper way of doing it properly unless you are a bulk seller/shipper who gets significant discounts on freight shipping.
10-18-13, 06:13 AM
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Had 2 hoods shipped, first one guy was a douchebag threw it in a large box with a little fabric thrown in. Came with the ends popping out of the box.
Second one arrived with no damage. I had been looking for one for a while this guy sold it to me for $20 and forget the shipping (might have been $50-60?) but assured me it would arrive no damage. He did good on it. If you go to a body shop they normally save the foam blocks that come attached to the sharp corners of new hoods.
Its definitely a gamble, only do it if you are prepared to lose your money.
Second one arrived with no damage. I had been looking for one for a while this guy sold it to me for $20 and forget the shipping (might have been $50-60?) but assured me it would arrive no damage. He did good on it. If you go to a body shop they normally save the foam blocks that come attached to the sharp corners of new hoods.
Its definitely a gamble, only do it if you are prepared to lose your money.
10-18-13, 09:16 AM
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Had 2 hoods shipped, first one guy was a douchebag threw it in a large box with a little fabric thrown in. Came with the ends popping out of the box.
Second one arrived with no damage. I had been looking for one for a while this guy sold it to me for $20 and forget the shipping (might have been $50-60?) but assured me it would arrive no damage. He did good on it. If you go to a body shop they normally save the foam blocks that come attached to the sharp corners of new hoods.
Its definitely a gamble, only do it if you are prepared to lose your money.
Second one arrived with no damage. I had been looking for one for a while this guy sold it to me for $20 and forget the shipping (might have been $50-60?) but assured me it would arrive no damage. He did good on it. If you go to a body shop they normally save the foam blocks that come attached to the sharp corners of new hoods.
Its definitely a gamble, only do it if you are prepared to lose your money.
I'm estimating that with packaging materials 35 pounds is a safe assumption...
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10-18-13, 10:26 AM
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I'm the seller, so it's not really a gamble on my part, I told the buyer I'd package it as good as I can, using those expanding foam blocks (I bought a 65" tv online and the corners were wrapped in that and it arrived 100% perfect,) but I can't guarantee anything... I'd much rather do local pickup only, but that's not always an option.
I'm estimating that with packaging materials 35 pounds is a safe assumption...
I'm estimating that with packaging materials 35 pounds is a safe assumption...
10-18-13, 11:16 AM
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so we showed how bad the warehouse was to the rep and he called someone and had this big long conversation about how that wasn't right, and how they should have packaged it with something.
we made the claim as usual, and that one got denied.....
10-18-13, 11:44 AM
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that's how Mazda usually ships theirs... this one time, at dealership, we got a new area rep from Mazda, and 10 minutes after he walked in the door we got a big box from UPS, that turned out to be a windshield, which of course in the warehouse they had just tossed into a box and was completely destroyed.
so we showed how bad the warehouse was to the rep and he called someone and had this big long conversation about how that wasn't right, and how they should have packaged it with something.
we made the claim as usual, and that one got denied.....
so we showed how bad the warehouse was to the rep and he called someone and had this big long conversation about how that wasn't right, and how they should have packaged it with something.
we made the claim as usual, and that one got denied.....
I have also gotten to the point that I take pictures of packaging and measurements of large, fragile, or unusual items that I have to ship, to use as proof in a later insurance claim should the need arise. I have found it to help GREATLY when it comes time to appeal a claim.
10-18-13, 12:48 PM
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OF course...the SOP of the parcel carriers is to always deny insurance coverage initially. They do this because they hope you will just accept it and move on. It is about a two or three week fight with them to get a claim appealed and paid out, requiring you to make several phone calls and fax/email in several "documents" upon request, then wait a while for "processing". IF you do a lot of shipping on your account, you have a better chance than a random joe shipping one or two items a year.
I have also gotten to the point that I take pictures of packaging and measurements of large, fragile, or unusual items that I have to ship, to use as proof in a later insurance claim should the need arise. I have found it to help GREATLY when it comes time to appeal a claim.
I have also gotten to the point that I take pictures of packaging and measurements of large, fragile, or unusual items that I have to ship, to use as proof in a later insurance claim should the need arise. I have found it to help GREATLY when it comes time to appeal a claim.
nowadays Mazda asks for pictures too.
10-18-13, 01:05 PM
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I don't understand. I get that the warehouse packaged it poorly and was the ultimate cause of damage. But the insurance claim would have gone through the shipping carrier, would it not?
I agree that the mazda warehouse would have been at fault and should have issued a credit for it.
It seems like the parts sales channel aspect of mazda is very hard to get along with. I wonder why they have made it that way. For example, they will NLA an old part like a 12a rotor housing and refuse to make any more with the tooling just sitting in a warehouse somewhere unused, yet they will also refuse to sell any of their old tooling or patents on that item to an aftermarket company who wants to continue to produce them. They will sell parts at deep discounts to individual "racers" who run only two events per year, but they will not give those same discounts to engine builders or wholesalers who might purchase thousands of dollars per month (or in a couple of cases that I am aware of, hundreds of thousands of $ in parts per month). It is clear that mazda does not care about their enthusiast following like some other companies who support theirs a bit better (like nissan).
10-18-13, 01:26 PM
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So, mazda runs their own freight/shipping service?
I don't understand. I get that the warehouse packaged it poorly and was the ultimate cause of damage. But the insurance claim would have gone through the shipping carrier, would it not?
I agree that the mazda warehouse would have been at fault and should have issued a credit for it.
It seems like the parts sales channel aspect of mazda is very hard to get along with. I wonder why they have made it that way. For example, they will NLA an old part like a 12a rotor housing and refuse to make any more with the tooling just sitting in a warehouse somewhere unused, yet they will also refuse to sell any of their old tooling or patents on that item to an aftermarket company who wants to continue to produce them. They will sell parts at deep discounts to individual "racers" who run only two events per year, but they will not give those same discounts to engine builders or wholesalers who might purchase thousands of dollars per month (or in a couple of cases that I am aware of, hundreds of thousands of $ in parts per month). It is clear that mazda does not care about their enthusiast following like some other companies who support theirs a bit better (like nissan).
I don't understand. I get that the warehouse packaged it poorly and was the ultimate cause of damage. But the insurance claim would have gone through the shipping carrier, would it not?
I agree that the mazda warehouse would have been at fault and should have issued a credit for it.
It seems like the parts sales channel aspect of mazda is very hard to get along with. I wonder why they have made it that way. For example, they will NLA an old part like a 12a rotor housing and refuse to make any more with the tooling just sitting in a warehouse somewhere unused, yet they will also refuse to sell any of their old tooling or patents on that item to an aftermarket company who wants to continue to produce them. They will sell parts at deep discounts to individual "racers" who run only two events per year, but they will not give those same discounts to engine builders or wholesalers who might purchase thousands of dollars per month (or in a couple of cases that I am aware of, hundreds of thousands of $ in parts per month). It is clear that mazda does not care about their enthusiast following like some other companies who support theirs a bit better (like nissan).
yeah the parts side gets weird, they obviously have a limited budget, but they do a really odd job of stocking the warehouses.
for instance last summer they had 10 GSL-SE rotor housings, which is about a 2 year supply, but they had zero Skyaktiv oil filters. you would think that having basic parts for the hot new car would be more important than stocking parts for some vintage model that nobody is going to buy (even if the GSL-SE is the best thing they ever made)
i do agree that Mazda could do a run of 12A rotor housings profitably. there is also friction between Mazda Japan and Mazda USA, i have the impression that Mazda Japan thinks that Mazda USA are a bunch of buffoons, and as such don't seem to get the memo
the comp program is great, however its not a discount (i'll pm you). basically Mazda USA does have the ability to sell direct to the public, but the dealer network gets mad.
10-18-13, 02:38 PM
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I have it on good authority that a couple of years ago mazda NA got wind of several rotary parts sellers/wholesalers buying hundreds of thousands of $/month through the comp program, and promptly shut them down and required them to buy through the dealership network. This caused prices to increase 10-15% overnight for everyone who bought through those sellers. These are bigtime shops that everyone here knows.
