FCRyosuke07

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well i have been a honda enthusiast for the past 2 years but i am trying to understand the ways of the mazda now. anyways i found a black Turbo II for sale like 20 mins from my house which is perfect. i really like it so i was trying to find other TII's for sale to compare the price...but i couldnt find any. anyone know how many were produced over the 2nd gen. span? also, you think 4200 is a good deal for one with 93K miles? thanks guys.

Node

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Depends on what kind of Turbo II it is
Is it a series 4 (87-88) or series 5 (89-91)
Does it have side mouldings and mirrors that are black, or painted the body color.
Also any problems with it? Was the engine replaced? if so how many miles on engine.

Here are some good sites
http://2ndgenrx7.freeservers.com/page1.html <---2nd gen resource, lotta facts and whatnot
http://home.rmci.net/panther/ <---florida RX-7 club, has a good tech page, and some of the cars in their members section are real nice
http://www.fc3s.org <---FC3S.org's site, has info on N2O (yuck) in RX-7's and writeups about shocks and brakes and other stuff, I forget
http://www.1300cc.com/ <---Scott89T2's site
http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/ <---large amount of info pulled from i think its an RX-7 e-mail list, mainly on FD (3rd gens) but good all around info


here is a good page on rotaries in general
http://www.monito.com/wankel/wankel.html <---has info on wankel, other people who were involved, all the companies who were involved in rotaries and dates, cars, how it works, some of the high points of the rotary.

Enjoy

Icemark

depends on the year. In the bay area and southern CA it seems most Running T2 models are going for between $2000 and $3500 again depending on year. It would have to be in very very good condition to get $4000

FCRyosuke07

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well i know its a 87, but i didnt really pay attention to the moldings and the mirrors. it doesnt have any problems with it that i can tell, i took it for a test drive but i am going to have my mechanic look at it. is there anything specifically i should have him check out? the engine doesnt look like its been replaced but im not sure, looks clean so maybe. is one kind rarer than the other? thanks for the sites too.

Ryde _Or_Die

Man node you replied before I could type it up

Yea, it seems like a pretty good deal with those miles. If it is a 89+ it is a damn good deal to me if everything works and is in good shape. Make sure you get a compression test. That will tell you what kind of shape the engine is in. See if there are any maintainence records too. There could be some little problems possibly, if you find some let us know on here and someone will know how to fix them. Any more questions just ask away.

Ryde _Or_Die

Oh ya...if you have cash money offer way lower, sometimes people go for the green

Node

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89+ (series 5) T2's are somewhat rare, the 87 and 88 are much more common and easier to find.
I'd say thats a lot for a 87. Offer $3k-$3.5k if it's in real good working condition, no rust, runs good, good compression, good interior and exterior. All records, doesn't overheat, floodings not too much of a problem cause it can be fixed. Look out for overheating mainly.

Ryde _Or_Die

Damn I need to actually hit the reply button alot quicker.

Well for an 87, that seems like wayy too much unless it is in perfect condition and has a new engine with a warranty. Thats way too much, go look at www.kb.com for what the price should be close to. I haven't yet, but it should be alot lower.

Ryde _Or_Die

Ok I dunno if the car is at a dealer or not but from a private party and if the car is in "good" condition with those miles the blue book value is $2870.

Evil Aviator

That's too much, although I'm sure that the seller expects the price to be bargained down. Check out this link below for a fair price, and be sure to read the fine print on the site so that you know what things like "Good", "Excellent", etc. mean (ie tire condition, paint condition, etc.). Then you can add or subtract from the Blue Book price as appropriate. BTW, use the "Private Party Value" (I assume it isn't at a dealership).
http://www.kbb.com/

Here is a good site on what to look for in a non-turbo, but it is pretty much the same thing for the TII. The main thing is to make sure that the engine compression is good. You will need to take the car to a shop that knows about rotary engines to get a proper compression test, so make sure that you call them first to make sure that they have a mechanic who knows how to do this for a rotary engine.
http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/

It would be best to have an RX-7-smart person to go with you to check out the car, but since you are posting here I guess you don't know anyone. Once you look at the car and have the mechanic check it out, post again and everyone will let you know about what any repairs will cost, or what any aftermarket go-fast goodies are worth. For example, the 87 came with either a steel or aluminum hood, so obviously the aluminum hood would be better, so bring a magnet with you when you look at the car.

No, I don't know how many TII's were produced, but it was a whole lot. Even the "limited edition" 1988 10th Anniversary TII doesn't have any collector value right now because there are so many running around.

FCRyosuke07

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hmm...thanks guys. i wasnt planning on giving him the 4200...i have cash so i figured that 3500 would be fine. ill make sure to get it compression tested. thanks for the help...i am so close to becoming a FC owner, hope it all works out.

ROSHX7

Everytime I see a TII for sale, its usually a 1987 model. Why is that? Its very rare to ever see a 89-92 for sale, especially 1992, never EVEN seen that! Did they like make WAY more 87 TIIs then in all the other years or something?!

Node

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2nd gen RX-7's were made from 1986-1992
series 4 1986-1988
series 5 1989-1992

Turbo 2's were made from 1987-1992 (im not sure if japan got 1986 turbo 2's or not, i believe all their cars where turbo)

US did not receive ANY 1992 RX-7s

And series 5's did not sell many at all.



this was stolen from http://2ndgenrx7.freeservers.com/specsmaster.html

this is for N/A's I think, and I had no info on amounts for Turbo IIs or 1992 RX-7's. I'm guessing this was for either US market or North American market
1986 56,243
1987 38,345
1988 27,814
1989 16,249
1990 9,743
1991 6,986

The Ace

Too bad for you then....

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Node

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I think vaughnc says in his sig he has a 1992 FC. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I've always wanted to ask.

Josepi

Thats cool, outa 250,000,000+ people in the US, I got my hands on 1 of 7000 cars. Muhahaha.

Node

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get a 1992 turbo vert, then you're reallllllllllllly special :-D

No7Yet

Actually...

No 2nd-gens were manufactured post mid-1991. There are no "1992" model 2nd-gens in the U.S. - 1991 models were just sold in '92 until the 3rd-gen came out. While the U.S. saw the 1986 model as the earliest 2nd-gen, they were made and sold in Japan in 1985 (keep in mind that in Japan there are no model years - only build dates). You are correct in that all JDM RX-7s have always been turbos (that includes the SA22s)

The 3rd-gen started manufacture in 1991 and was sold that year in Japan. The first U.S.-spec FDs were sold in late 1992 as 1993 models. That's why you can't find any U.S. sale data for 1992-model RX-7s

Brandon

Icemark

Actually the JDM T2 'verts (FC3C) were built through the first 8 months of 92 along side the FD production (which started 12/91) in the Hiroshima factory (same factory that the old GLC/323 and Miata were built in)

So more accurate would be that no US Spec FCs were made after 8/91 (which is technically two months into the 92 model year).

See this page for referance: http://www.mazda.co.jp/history/rx7/J...ar/chrono.html which has the 3/78 through 10/97 production models and dates. Blue BTW is the FC production.

hIGGI

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so that series 5 turbo vert isn`t FC3S but FC3C ?

Icemark

Actually I just found out from Mazda that all the series 4 and 5 'verts are FC3C for convertible. The C for Convertible I guess.

The coupes are all FC3S (S for Sports car maybe?)

maxpesce

Mazda started taking orders for FD's in the US at the LA Auto show in Jan. 1992 and delivered the first cars to the general public by April 92 - Not exactly LATE 1992