How to make a Turbo-2 produce 350hp?
#27
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Originally posted by AMIR KHALED
I don't care about your history lesson or your opinion, I'm going to get my gear ready
I don't care about your history lesson or your opinion, I'm going to get my gear ready
You'll probably die of high blood pressure before you even get on the plane.
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Originally posted by RXTASY1
What the hell are you talking about Ted?
With those mods, he would be well in to the 11's!
I guess he could go out and buy a C5 for $45k that would put him in the mid 12's! Now that's a lot of money!
I don't know what "relatively" fast means to you, but any car that runs in the 11's or 12's is just plain fast.
There are a few mods that were mentioned, he could do away with and still have a freakin fast car.
What the hell are you talking about Ted?
With those mods, he would be well in to the 11's!
I guess he could go out and buy a C5 for $45k that would put him in the mid 12's! Now that's a lot of money!
I don't know what "relatively" fast means to you, but any car that runs in the 11's or 12's is just plain fast.
There are a few mods that were mentioned, he could do away with and still have a freakin fast car.
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Originally posted by AMIR KHALED
You know you could be right, but what if your wrong you little snott nose Kid.
You know you could be right, but what if your wrong you little snott nose Kid.
#31
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Geez, moderators hasn't locked this one up yet???
I normally have tremendous respect for armed forces personnel...that why I haven't commented on the whole "jar head" or Vietnam War thing.  If you got the ***** to go die for your country, my hat is off to you...
My bet this is some dork trying to make idle threats cause he can't back his sh*t up.  He put his foot in his mouth, and now he looks all stupid.  So what does he do?  Pretend he makes sense and has the falses sense that other people agree with him...
I really don't give a f*ck.  I do this to help others.  I don't do this to stroke my ego.  I could care less what you think of me.  I know I'm not perfect; I know of others who would think I'm a grade A assh*le that think just like you of me...
Think about it...the Vietnam War ended in the early 70's.  That makes you at least in your late 40's or 50's.  I find the idea of a 50-something year old man chasing me cause he cannot read my posts right a bit funny at best...
-Ted
I normally have tremendous respect for armed forces personnel...that why I haven't commented on the whole "jar head" or Vietnam War thing.  If you got the ***** to go die for your country, my hat is off to you...
My bet this is some dork trying to make idle threats cause he can't back his sh*t up.  He put his foot in his mouth, and now he looks all stupid.  So what does he do?  Pretend he makes sense and has the falses sense that other people agree with him...
I really don't give a f*ck.  I do this to help others.  I don't do this to stroke my ego.  I could care less what you think of me.  I know I'm not perfect; I know of others who would think I'm a grade A assh*le that think just like you of me...
Think about it...the Vietnam War ended in the early 70's.  That makes you at least in your late 40's or 50's.  I find the idea of a 50-something year old man chasing me cause he cannot read my posts right a bit funny at best...
-Ted
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Originally posted by Dyre
Heres my list for you, this is the way to do it right-
*Mild/Medium Street port (Racing Beat is Great, so is Atkins Rotary and many more)
*Haltech ECU (VERY IMPORTANT)
*Custom TO4 Turbo (w/ Crispeed Manifold- should be cheaper and more powerful than the HK$ and GReddy kits)
*Custom FMIC and Piping- Theres lots of great cores out there that cost alot less than the ~$1200 GReddy and HK$ want for thiers- Local muffler shop should be able to bend up the pipes super easy for you
*Upgraded fuel pump (i think the popular walbro 255 will work for you)
*720cc/min primaries ~1200cc/min primaries (probably way overkill here 4x 720 should accually be fine)
*Any of the popular BOVs will work since you wont be running a ton of boost
*FULL RACING BEAT TII EXHUAST! Screw that 'tuner' ****. Its not worth the price. For the price of a GReddy or Apexi CAT-BACK you can get the FULL 3" RB exhuast with a SS pre silencer and SS muflers.
*Maybe need a custom DP to go with the crispeed manifold and turbo
*Build your own intake from a universal K&N filter for $40
*Stock Wires and Plugs are fine. Use only NGK plugs- Using 9's all the way around will give you a little better highway performance
*Stock Ignitors are fine, you may want to add a CDI ignition box
*Remove all the emmisions crap- wont need it with the Haltech anyways
*Gauges man! Gauges! EGT/Boost/Water Temp/Fuel Pressure/Oil Pressure/Oil Temp! The first two are manditory, the rest are good
*You'll need to do some work on the suspension as some stuff will be worn out
*Roll Cage?
*clutch/flywheel? ACT makes great clutches
If you run 10psi you can probably put down 300rwhp with this setup- it might even make that HP with less boost. And if you find it too slow you can turn up the boost and re-tune it if nessicary.
Heres my list for you, this is the way to do it right-
*Mild/Medium Street port (Racing Beat is Great, so is Atkins Rotary and many more)
*Haltech ECU (VERY IMPORTANT)
*Custom TO4 Turbo (w/ Crispeed Manifold- should be cheaper and more powerful than the HK$ and GReddy kits)
*Custom FMIC and Piping- Theres lots of great cores out there that cost alot less than the ~$1200 GReddy and HK$ want for thiers- Local muffler shop should be able to bend up the pipes super easy for you
*Upgraded fuel pump (i think the popular walbro 255 will work for you)
*720cc/min primaries ~1200cc/min primaries (probably way overkill here 4x 720 should accually be fine)
*Any of the popular BOVs will work since you wont be running a ton of boost
*FULL RACING BEAT TII EXHUAST! Screw that 'tuner' ****. Its not worth the price. For the price of a GReddy or Apexi CAT-BACK you can get the FULL 3" RB exhuast with a SS pre silencer and SS muflers.
*Maybe need a custom DP to go with the crispeed manifold and turbo
*Build your own intake from a universal K&N filter for $40
*Stock Wires and Plugs are fine. Use only NGK plugs- Using 9's all the way around will give you a little better highway performance
*Stock Ignitors are fine, you may want to add a CDI ignition box
*Remove all the emmisions crap- wont need it with the Haltech anyways
*Gauges man! Gauges! EGT/Boost/Water Temp/Fuel Pressure/Oil Pressure/Oil Temp! The first two are manditory, the rest are good
*You'll need to do some work on the suspension as some stuff will be worn out
*Roll Cage?
*clutch/flywheel? ACT makes great clutches
If you run 10psi you can probably put down 300rwhp with this setup- it might even make that HP with less boost. And if you find it too slow you can turn up the boost and re-tune it if nessicary.
What do you think of this TURBO???..i want my car for street/weekend only!..
T04B V-trim compressor, P-trim turbine w/ .96 A/R turbine housing.
im only aiming for 350 to the wheel HP =)
Last edited by fcturbo2; 08-09-01 at 10:18 PM.
#33
ted is right,what he means by fast is a car with at least 300h.p. and if youre going to spend money to buy all this expensive electronic gadgets to up the fuel pressure or to get more boost(when most of you dont even use the dyno to tune it)some of you even gut the cats.rip out the emission devices put big exaust pipes(that just make annoying noises)a few even use expensive pain in the butt to install computers(haltech)when the car is only worth $2500,and to top it off most cars in this board are not even running!because the owner has jacked with it so much the wirings and the s-afc the a/fmeters the 720cc injectors just messes things up.tune it for reliability and thats it!(intake,downpipe,high-flow cat.)and you'll have a fun reliable car,if you want big power buy a turbo Z theyre cheap now or a supra.sorry guys maybe most of you are still in youre teens so i understand.
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ted is right,what he means by fast is a car with at least 300h.p. and if youre going to spend money to buy all this expensive electronic gadgets to up the fuel pressure or to get more boost(when most of you dont even use the dyno to tune it)some of you even gut the cats.rip out the emission devices put big exaust pipes(that just make annoying noises)a few even use expensive pain in the butt to install computers(haltech)when the car is only worth $2500,and to top it off most cars in this board are not even running!because the owner has jacked with it so much the wirings and the s-afc the a/fmeters the 720cc injectors just messes things up.tune it for reliability and thats it!(intake,downpipe,high-flow cat.)and you'll have a fun reliable car,if you want big power buy a turbo Z theyre cheap now or a supra.sorry guys maybe most of you are still in youre teens so i understand.
I respect Ted. He is a major asset to the RX-7 community, but I disagree with him on this topic.
If you want to have a 350 HP RX-7, the recipe that was given to you is the only way to go.
There are some things you can trim off the list like a full Racing Beat exhaust (you can make your own for a lot cheaper)
You don't need an ignition computer.
You don't have to have youir engine re-built and street ported. ( Buy a J-Spec for $750)
You can find intercoolers off of old trucks in the junk yard.
Your car will still be a rotary unlike the Z cars and Supras!
You will also be WAY faster than a stock FD and more reliable at half the cost.
#37
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I'm with AMIR - Ted's a *******.
... sorry man, couldn't resist. I'm with Ted on the FC loyalty though. I've dumped a lot more than I want to admit to myself into my FC, and there's no end in sight. The plan is to make it a total track weapon that's clean enough for shows - in fact, my car might be in a booth at the Nopi Nats.
Good luck with your FC project. It's nice to see that there's still enthusiasm for them.
... sorry man, couldn't resist. I'm with Ted on the FC loyalty though. I've dumped a lot more than I want to admit to myself into my FC, and there's no end in sight. The plan is to make it a total track weapon that's clean enough for shows - in fact, my car might be in a booth at the Nopi Nats.
Good luck with your FC project. It's nice to see that there's still enthusiasm for them.
#38
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Gee, i dont anybody dumb enough to dump a ton money into a turboII. Anyone that restores a turboII should be flogged with flywheel nut breaker bar.....
*sigh*
*sigh*
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Gee, i dont anybody dumb enough to dump a ton money into a turboII. Anyone that restores a turboII should be flogged with flywheel nut breaker bar.....
I guess we could take turns whacking each other?
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Can i join in the whacking?
fcturbo2
You'll need to talk to someone like RiceRacing or Crispeed about the exact trims you need- Im far from a turbo expert, but i THINK with the proper compressor and exhuast wheels you can make 350rwhp at about 15psi with a very smooth hp/torque curves, and minimal lag-
Like i said though, talk to cris or RiceRacing-
fcturbo2
You'll need to talk to someone like RiceRacing or Crispeed about the exact trims you need- Im far from a turbo expert, but i THINK with the proper compressor and exhuast wheels you can make 350rwhp at about 15psi with a very smooth hp/torque curves, and minimal lag-
Like i said though, talk to cris or RiceRacing-
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Originally posted by AMIR KHALED
RETardTED, This is the 2nd Gen. site, that's why he asked the question at this site not at the 3rd Gen FD site. Please don't start comparing RX-7 Generations.
RETardTED, This is the 2nd Gen. site, that's why he asked the question at this site not at the 3rd Gen FD site. Please don't start comparing RX-7 Generations.
Amir,
Flames (i.e. "RETardTED") are NOT permitted. You have been warned.
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Originally posted by AMIR KHALED
I don't care about your history lesson or your opinion, I'm going to get my gear ready
I don't care about your history lesson or your opinion, I'm going to get my gear ready
You and your gear are both going to be banned if persist in threatening members...
Brad
Oh yeah... Former Cpl, USMC 0311/0331
And I live in the Dallas area.
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Originally posted by RXTASY1
Is this guy for real?
I can't believe he is making threats on the internet.
Isn't that against the law?
He blows up ****! Ewww...... BIG man!
Is this guy for real?
I can't believe he is making threats on the internet.
Isn't that against the law?
He blows up ****! Ewww...... BIG man!
(BTW I had the highest rifle-range score in my regiment, 236 out of 250 possible...)
Brad
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Originally posted by RotaryMan88
Also, pick up the new SUPERSTREET issue...the september issue is all about turbos and mainly turbo controllers, etc...they dyno several top brands...its a good issue for turbo lovers..
Also, pick up the new SUPERSTREET issue...the september issue is all about turbos and mainly turbo controllers, etc...they dyno several top brands...its a good issue for turbo lovers..
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Oh, and don't mind the flamers. All rotary owners actually love each other. Like their engines, rotor heads get hot easily. Don't let that discurage you from modding your rotary. Good Luck!
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As for the exhaust I would go with the Apexi NI single. I have it on my N/A and it shoots 3ft flames. Apexi is also on of the best companies out of Japan where true supercars come from. I mean have you guys seen the Apexi R34. Daaaammmmmnnnnnn
Also those style exhausts are proven to make the most horsies.
Also those style exhausts are proven to make the most horsies.