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Old 04-03-02, 12:53 AM
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How good is the cornering, really?

What can you guys post about the cornering abilities of the car?

I mean, other than "really good."

Say, If I'm going eighty on the expressway and take a thirty mile per hour exit, what then?

Examples like that.
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Hope you have the seatbelt on.

Its best to learn to drive properly before you explore your car's limits
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I have taken many 15 mph curves out by my g/f house in the country at high speeds. The fastest was at 75 mph, and yes, I had control. I reccomend going to an empty parking lot on like a Tuesday night (to avoid cops) at like 2am, and just rip it up. All I have is a front strut tower brace. BE CAREFUL!!!
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My girlfriend lives in the blackhole that is known as Central Illinois. We can pull a lot of crazy things there that we couldn't do in the real world.

We're experienced in getting her clubfooted Camaro powerhouse to do all kinds of crazy things as far as handling goes.

Meanwhile, I live in the center of Traffic, America, which is the many many superhighways of Chicago. So I do a lot of high speed driving, sometimes out in outerspace and sometimes in traffic denser than midtown Manhatten that moves at eighty miles per hour.

So a lot of what I'm looking for depends on versatility. My biggest issue in driving is that spaces open and close up instantly, or that curves will snap out of a straightaway out of no where. On the five lane interstates, it's unpredictable, and out in the country, you just have to *know* the roads to know when a perfectly straight block of intersecting roads will suddenly bend to avoid Old Farmer Brown's chicken coup.

In other words, I'm not looking to pull stunts here out in suburbia, but it's nice to know I can get up at eleven in the sticks, a hundred some miles away, and walk into my Starbucks for work at twelve thirty, short of a semi jack-knifing or something, if I have to.

I've always thought about management superiority in traffic. My dad raised me on his 83 VW Rabbit. That car is so weird, sort of the opposite RX-7. It's deisel, it's hardly two thousand pounds, it pops and roars like a semi, it seats four, four doors, and looks like a crushed Jeep. Yet it burns rubber in fourth, gets 48 miles to the gallon (And it's... eighteen years old!), accelerates like hell, and, frankly, I've seen very very very few cars that can handle like my dad moves that car. I mean, current Golfs dream of being my dad's Rabbit.

So, it's nice to know I can take a fifteen mile per hour exit at seventy if it means making it to work on time
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they handle rather well if the suspension is in good condition, IE: not some cheap *** soft ride shocks, or shot springs.

coming back over the mountain here one day (about 30 miles of mountain curves) my dad had my 87 automatic RX-7, he was takin 10 and 15mph corners at over 50mph and still had plenty of traction, tires werent squealing or anything, but i was still scared shitless, but i trusted my dad not to kill me because he's been driving for like 45 years lol
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Wow! Must burn off sudden burst of creativity before going to bed!

....

In some alternate Road Warrior type universe, one of the few remaining human engineering feats is roadway systems such as the Eisenhower system and the Autobahn. Secret lab workers reverse engineer hundred year old RX-7s and tune them to handle the old twists and curves of ancient, now delapidated urban centers to infiltrate mechahives, infested by killer unicycle machines, that scatter the American landscape.

God, this post is stupid. I'm going to bed.
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I come out of a 30mph on-ramp at about 6k in 3rd.
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A cars handling ability is not nearly as important as the person controling the car. If you want to explore your cars limits and also gain some skills try autocrossing(soloII). Get as much seat time as you can and that will make your car quicker in the corners.
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...And make sure you have good tires!

Balding, cheap or hard tires will not net you anywhere near the traction of a competant street tire.
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lol...actually my cars cornering is perfect for the street. I take turns going to work at its limit everyday. Man tire pressure can really throw u off. I have stock suspension except for yoko tires on my 89GXL with sports suspension and it seriously handles better than my friends 97 miata. I drove both to their limits but nothing feelz more controlible than my 7. I can drift around some turns doing 80 and still feel in control. I have done lots of sideways stunts. When I get sideways in the miata its WAY scary. Doesent seem as controlible.
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Actually the suspension, with a little tunning (AKA spacers and stuff) is quite good on the 89GXL. However I am looking to get some tokiko springs and shocks and was wondering how good of a drifting setup this would be? When it comes to handling with these cars, they grip the road like nuts. However, if you do want to drift it is easy with the cars however, you are going to need to use that 50/50 weight ratio to your advantage. It is easy but don't take it for granted. It isn't like my old RS where if you got it sideways all you would need to do is mash the gas and steer. NO< DON"T DO THAT!!!! Use dynamic left braking along with gas to fully control your drift. Happy cornering and btw, the best corners are located in MAINE!!!!
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Re: How good is the cornering, really?

Originally posted by JumpyRoo
Say, If I'm going eighty on the expressway and take a thirty mile per hour exit, what then?

Examples like that.
Driving my car home for the first time, I took a 60km/h (~37mph) ramp at ~130km (75?mph)... Haven't really tried doing something like that on that ramp since, but the car had tons left. (what I'm saying is that this was pretty conservative) Then again, in a minivan you can usually do 60 ramps at 100 without scaring the other occupants.
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Yo,



Take a look:




Note $40,000+ mid engined Porsche riding on 17" rims with Potenza SO-2 rubber. Also note RX-7 on 16" rims riding on 13 year old suspension and Yokohama AVS 205/55 16 rubber.

I hung with him.

For like a couple hours in the twisties.

So yeah, RX-7's can handle.

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How do you control a drift using the brakes (from a physics point of view)? When can you expect to understeer instead of oversteer?
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if you want to learn to corner...

start autocrossing. once i started, i couldn't stop. it's a blast to drive your car in a totally safe enviroment and you get to explore the limits of your car, as well as yourself. and it's cheap. =)

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I have yet to meet a corner I couldn't double in my rx-7. And like the other posts, there is a lot left there. It certainly is a better car than I am driver.
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The n/a actually pulls higher G's on the skid pad stock than the TII. It also runs the 70' slolam a full 2 seconds faster. But, that is stock, and on a brand new car!! You do the math!!
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The n/a skidpad number is 0.88
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Originally posted by rico05
The n/a actually pulls higher G's on the skid pad stock than the TII.

Actually within the same series they are the same.
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wans oversteers alot in the canyons and its fun : (

WHY DONT YOU RUN, MY RX7!?!?!??!


oh wait, i havent put the engine in.
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n/a and TII of the same series have the same skidpad numbers.
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VERY ****** GOOD.

LIke when my FRIEND was driving my carhere , the speed limit on those S-curves was 25 . but he did have to take up 2 lanes doing it (was a 4-lane road so no stupid driving on the wrong side of the road or anything ) SO yeah, it does handle EXTREMELY well.

I know the 3rd gens got like 1.02g on the skidpad or something like that. I'm pretty sure the FC (2nd gen) must have been .95+
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[i] Happy cornering and btw, the best corners are located in MAINE!!!! [/B]
gotta represent maine.
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Wait man, you're from maine? Where in Maine? Do I know you or are you just pulling my leg? Last summer we catagorized all of the heavy cornering places in and around Maine with my Subaru RS (Junked) and my friends noisy Lancer Evo. Best place is if you know where the Balsams is, great road and extremelly tricky with 4 wheel drive vehicles (AKA 4WD Drift) PM me sometime and maybe we can get together. We do have a club in Maine currently and I don't know if you're in it or not. Anyway yeah give me a hollar. Oh I drive a beige 89GXL so stop me anytime if you catch me


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