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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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How to get 300hp?

Hey guys , ive done alot of searching and im comin up with nothin , im new to rotarys. jus got my rx7 about a week ago...

my car has 75k , motor was rebuilt 3k ago ... im lookin to hit the 270 - 300ish hp range (wanna keep it as a daily) what would the best mods to achieve this ?

ive been told some big injectors and a good dyno tune would put me in the high 200's ... 270+.. can some1 help me get this figured out please

its a 1987 FC TII , completly stock fresh rebuild , tranny is coming out next week to be rebuilt

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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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1. turbo
2. V8 swap
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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Bnr hybrid turbo, RTEK chipped ecu, 750cc injectors, walbro.
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by nate91242
Bnr hybrid turbo, RTEK chipped ecu, 750cc injectors, walbro.
+1....This is probably the cheapest way to do it. Dont forget to add a wideband 02 so you can be sure the AFR's are safe with higher boost.
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:10 PM
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wow thats exactly what i was looking for thank you very much , i was looking at the rtek ecu's ... can u put the 2.1 on a stock motor ? or should i just do all the upgrades at the same time ??and as for the turbo , stage 1 or 2 ?? im looking for quality and reliability , im willing to pay to achieve that

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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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lol my s13 was a v8 im liking the no piston idea haha what do u guys do to the rear end that v8 these things ?? complete swap ?
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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You CAN put a 2.1 on a stock motor, just realize that the 2.1 lets the user make their own fuel map.

For a V8 swap, people just use the turbo rear end with a custom driveshaft.
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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leave it alone, the stock FC turbo rear axle can handle as much as the LS1 can throw at it short of drag launches on stickies.
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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thanks , ya my plan is to get all this setup and have the ecu dyno tuned / programed by a shop
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:26 PM
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so what did u do for motor / tranny mount ? custom fab or they actually sell a kit ..? how about wiring harness ?
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:27 PM
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me? i have 1.3liters of raw fury still but i answer that way when i get upset that people on this forum don't do research and miss reading my sig.


anyways, find a tuner in your area who works on RX7s who will be tuning the car and follow their advice first before going out and just buying any ECU suggested to you. you may find that no one around you will touch an Rtek, or will charge you grossly more because they are a novice standalone and require HOURS of painstaking adjustments one live cell at a time.. so what did you save by buying an rtek if you aren't going to tune it yourself? nothing, because unecessary tuning/dyno time could have bought you a REAL standalone. Rtek is for the DIYer.
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:27 PM
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Try clicking your heels together 3 times while saying "There's nothing like 300hp, there's nothing like 300hp, there's nothing like 300hp." And it will be so.
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:29 PM
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why u gotta lie to me ..? i tried and it still is stock turboII lol
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:30 PM
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but i did do research ... i couldnt find no thread of what mods were needed to build a reliable 300hp 7
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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Yes the rtek 2.1 runs the car completely stock. Then you can upgrade other things as you want.
My suggestion.
1. Rtek
2. Racing beat turbo back
3. bigger injectors. You can run 720X4 with the Rtek and you can tune for larger ones if you need to. (Check ou t Rtek sectoin of forum)
4. Inter cooler
5. BNR stage 4

The BNR will pull down your Boost to 6-8psi from the 10psi that you would get with the Boost creep of the exhaust. I don't know if you will need a controller to acheive that but this will make one sweet 7.
Check the Rtek section you can get alot more info there.
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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sweet i already got the racing beat turbo back lol stage 4 for 300hp is a little excessive ya ? lol thank you for the info !
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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screw the BNR, look at the "build your own hybrid turbo" thread on the front page..

then you need a standalone, refer to my previous modified post.

then you need fuel system upgrades: walbro or supra pump, 720/720 or larger injector combination

free flowing intake and exhaust

a professional tuner or enough excess to cover a rebuild or 2.
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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ok thank you karack , sorry for being so nooby but this is my 1st rx7 and i bought one hell of a beautiful car now i want it to be as quick as hell , i got the fund just lookin for some guidence on whats best for these motors
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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300 with minimal work/cheap/reliable = rteck 2.1, BNR stage 2 (but the stage 3 costs the same as 2 so you might as well get the 3) 550/720 or 720/720 injectors, exhaust, walbro fuel pump, your going to need a boost controller, BOV, and to put it over the edge but not needed a front mount or v-mount intercooler to keep the temps down...... the thing you really need to know is it all depends on a good tune there was someone on here making 300hp with the rteck 2.1 and a stage 1 bnr and there are plenty of ppl on here running a similar setup that share fuel and timing maps you can use and modify to get a good starting point

for reliability I would recommend removing all the emissions stuff and the omp and start premixing
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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You could simply tie 100 horses to the front of it, and wallah 300hp.

In all seriousness what sort of budget are you looking at investing?

Reliability mods you might consider:

Water/Meth injection
Koyo (or equal) radiator
OMP delete and Premix

The Rtek and BNR are the "cheap" way to get to 300hp. If you have deep pockets you might want to step up to a Stand Alone (PFC, Haltech, etc) and a Garrett (or similar turbo).

A megasquirt might be the way to go if you are handy at soldering, and it's an affordable option similar to the Rtek, but it's a stand alone.
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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what do u guys mean premixing ?

and i plan on having a shop dyno tune it so based off what ive been thold in this thread ima get a standalone
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 05:01 PM
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but i did do research ... i couldnt find no thread of what mods were needed to build a reliable 300hp 7
No, you did not.
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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Think of a rotary engine like a 2 cycle engine. The OMP (oil metering pump) injects oil into the engine at the injectors to keep it lubricated.

You can mix 2 cycle oil with your gas like a weedeater or chainsaw (not 50:1), but 1oz/gal and add the oil to your gas tank first so it will mix with the gas correctly.
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