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Old 08-28-02, 09:15 PM
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How do you chirp tires between shifts?

Ok, I just got my *** handed to me by a Prelude (I wasn't expecting to beat it since I'm stock and those things pull some HP, but I thought I'd just try out my racing skills.) I noticed that he chirped his tires between shifts.

How did he do that?

Also, can someone give me a rundown on how to shift in a race situation?

Like do you press the clutch all the way down, or just to friction point. While the clutch is depressed, do you close the throttle?

Sorry for being naive, but I don't have any friends that drive manuals to show me.

If you'de just give a few tips you've learned, that'd be awesome.

Thanks in advance,
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If you clutch is good and engine running well you will chirp tires if you even come close to the max on the tourque curve. What you want to do is essentially shift at redline with a stock or near stock car. You can shift past but your power will likely drop off even before redline. It is advantagous to shift a little before redline in higher gears, but you just need to get used to what you feel is fastest. I usually let off throttle between gears to be easy on the synchros in the tranny but if you feel so inclined you can keep on full throttle, but i dont think it makes much difference.

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Keep 'er above 5K, press the clutch 'till you can shift, shift while letting up on throttle, mash the gas as you let out the clutch. There's some great driving tips at http://www.turnfast.com and http://www.drivingtechniques.co.uk
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try stomping on the throttle right before you pop the clutch into 2nd, like spinning the tires into first, but your already moving.

I push the clutch to the floor, just do it very quickly, and pop it out (no feathering) while the rpm's are still up. this should at least give you a "jump" into gear.

Just try and shift as fast as you can, but make sure it's in gear before you let the clutch out.
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make a quick shift.
when u are into the next gear just take your foot off the clutch like you are popping the clutch for alunch.

while you are "popling the clutch" in the next gear, floor the gas
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Preludes(and most FWD Hondas and other imports) can chirp second ez.. because theyre Front wheel drive and they dont have that good traction like we do.. and also if it was a vtec prelude... then of course he has 195-200 hp...a close ratio tranny(that allows him to stay in his powerband) and chirp 2nd and maybe 3rd... just a thought.. its that front wheel drive ****
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We can do it to But you must!!!

Shift Mad Quick yo

Not sure who coined that but it is funny

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You dont have to shift quick. Get rolling to 10mph, hold in the clutch. Rev to 8000rpm and drop it. Youll chirp

Btw, this is really hard on your tires/driveline/engine. So if you dont want to chance on breaking stuff, dont do it.
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Step 1. make car faster than Prelude.

Step 2. shift gears in high revs.
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i have a T2 and i can spin all the way through second. maybe your clutch is slipping bro, i'd imagine that any rx7 can chirp the tires. my friend has a 1st gen and he can do it easily as well.
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my car does not let me shift above 8k, I do it by accident sometimes, prolly a safety feature so you dont blow the tranny
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Originally posted by TRURX7
my car does not let me shift above 8k, I do it by accident sometimes, prolly a safety feature so you dont blow the tranny
Actually, its a fuel cut so you don't run your rotor tips into the housings.
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dont think its fuel cut. If it simply wont let me put it in gear, it has to do with the tranny. i have experienced fuel cut before and its more of a stumble. the shifting at 7-8k is more something mechanical.
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Originally posted by TRURX7
dont think its fuel cut. If it simply wont let me put it in gear, it has to do with the tranny. i have experienced fuel cut before and its more of a stumble. the shifting at 7-8k is more something mechanical.
What do you mean, put it into gear? as in shift from say 2nd to first at 8000? or shift into second from third, as an example?
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I think I feathered my shift a bit...that would be the problem I suppose. So you just pop it out while mashing the gas. Sounds easy enough...once I get my full straight pipes on I'm sure I'll do better.

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yeah, in other words: dont be nice to the transmission. romp the gas pedal, push in the clutch and keep a high rpm while you shift.
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you need to go fast not worry about making little noises, worry about not breaking your car
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Re: How do you chirp tires between shifts?

Originally posted by nima_taba
Ok, I just got my *** handed to me by a Prelude (I wasn't expecting to beat it since I'm stock and those things pull some HP, but I thought I'd just try out my racing skills.) I noticed that he chirped his tires between shifts.

How did he do that?

Also, can someone give me a rundown on how to shift in a race situation?

Like do you press the clutch all the way down, or just to friction point. While the clutch is depressed, do you close the throttle?

Sorry for being naive, but I don't have any friends that drive manuals to show me.

If you'de just give a few tips you've learned, that'd be awesome.

Thanks in advance,
Nima
own a car with lots of horsepower
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Re: Re: How do you chirp tires between shifts?

Originally posted by jspecracer7


own a car with lots of horsepower
*cough*I can chirp 2nd gear in my g/f's mom's Subaru Justy*cough*
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do you think he beat you becuase his chirps added 20 more hp?
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I used to be able to chirp 2nd at like 3.8k.
but then again my clutch was brand new and i was pushing 17psi.
good old days.
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Re: Re: Re: How do you chirp tires between shifts?

Originally posted by Liquid Anarchy


*cough*I can chirp 2nd gear in my g/f's mom's Subaru Justy*cough*
lol...I can chirp 275/40 Nitto 555r's in 2nd AND 3rd gear...
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Originally posted by duboisr
you need to go fast not worry about making little noises, worry about not breaking your car
Powershifting=bad

Last time I did that, I completely stripped the input shaft to the tranny, and when all was said and done I was out $1200 to replace it. It happened on my birthday, of course.
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2 ways:

dont take your foot off the gas. period. leave it on, hit the clutch, grab the gear, let go of the clutch, all this being done in under a quarter second.

OR

throw in the clutch while you let off the gas, grab the gear, let go of the clutch as you punch the throttle, again, under a quarter second, you have to be FAST...

like the phrase

shift mad quick. lol

but, i dont reccomend either of them unless you have some $ because you CAN break stuff, and its usually a matter of time before you do.
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Originally posted by i8acobra

dont take your foot off the gas. period. leave it on, hit the clutch, grab the gear, let go of the clutch, all this being done in under a quarter second.
Exactly what I did when my tranny went BOOM


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