88rxn/a

iTrader: (6)

everyone talks about H trims and all tht stuff...but im new to turbos and dont know how to measure one to know thats what i bought?
i trust the guy i bought it from but i still want to know how to figure this out....
like a T04 and all that stuff.....

i got a Airesearch stage 2 that has a TO4B intake AR.60 with a Htrim wheel...
now i may be crazy for buying stuff i dont know what it is but id like to find out how to measure it...

RETed

http://fc3spro.com/TECH/TURBO/tmodels.html


-Ted

88rxn/a

iTrader: (6)

thanks,
i think i get it..lol
i see what i come up with...

88rxn/a

iTrader: (6)

ok, so now i want to take of the compressor wheel...
is it just the bolts on the back??
is it ok to take just that off without it needed to be rebalanced??

RETed

Okay, do you want to take off the compressor housing to access the compressor wheel?
Or do you want to remove the compressor wheel off the shaft?

If it's the former, yes, just remove the 6(?) bolts on the back of the compressor housing.
You might need to gently tap the housing to get it off the backing plate.
Be very careful removing the housing, as the tight tolerances make for a very close fit - it you cant the housing far enough to contact the compressor wheel, you can damage the compressor wheel itself.


-Ted

88rxn/a

iTrader: (6)

yes
is it pretty easy to damage?? the compressor wheel??

RETed

If you're gentle, you should be okay.
Don't be banging on it too hard!
Soft taps with a piece of wood (or wooden mallet or equivalent) should be all you need to loosen the compressor housing.


-Ted

88rxn/a

iTrader: (6)

ok, got it off..... this is what the housing looks like on the inside of it...

is this normal shaft play wear or is this pretty bad???
and can i dot he same thing for the hotside as far as taking it off??
i know its hard to see with it being blurry but its all i got for a cam.

RETed

Take a pic of the compressor wheel?
If there is contact, it's easier to tell on the compressor wheel.
The compressor wheel blades should have "clean edges" - if they are jagged, then that is bad.

The dark spots are normal, as you're still running the stock emissions system?
Either that or your air filter isn't doing that good of a job?


-Ted

88rxn/a

iTrader: (6)

i checked them and they are shape as hell but no nicks or anyhting like that...
the other picture has some rough pathces where its dark in the photo...and next to it its smooth to a polish..lol
and the hotside comes off the same way??
im not sure what emissions where ran since i have not used it yet and just bought it

RETed

There's some funny spot on the top fins of the bottom pic, but I think that's glare from the pic?

If the fins are all clean with nice edges, it looks fine!

Yeah, the turbine housing pops off in a similar manner.
The bolts are a little harder to get off, but don't worry about breaking them.
The turbine housing is usually stuck pretty good, but use the two alternating bolts that hit the oil flanges to "push" the turbine housing off the center housing.

Good luck!

BTW, did you get to measure the compressor wheel?


-Ted

88rxn/a

iTrader: (6)

i have not measured it yet....
all i can find is a damn standard tape measure....
can i get ann accurate reading with this?? im betting that it wont be good enough...
maybe ill get a machine shop to measure it...

deltr0n`

a digital caliper is your friend!

RETed

Even Sears carries the plastic ones, which are like under $10.
You really need the dial caliper accuracy to get a good measurement.

Notice the chart is down to hundreths of an inch!


-Ted

88rxn/a

iTrader: (6)

ahhhhh did not know that....
guess im off to sears tuesday

88rxn/a

iTrader: (6)

checked sears, autozone, true value, advantce auto and NAPA...
believe it or not none of them carried one in stock..autozone could get one bit it was 30 bucks and not even digital..lol prices were pretty much the same for all of them so im gonna buy this one....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-6...QQcmdZViewItem

deltr0n`

Ive got this one, but in 8" Mitutoyo is one of the best.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-MITUTOYO-DIG...QQcmdZViewItem

88rxn/a

iTrader: (6)

nice....
i didnt want to pay much for somthin i prob only use a few times...
well....ya never know....
mayb when it needs rebuilt...lol
you get yours from Ebay to??

deltr0n`

no, my old job had them, it followed me out.

RETed

Wow, that kinda sucks.
Sears carries a non-Craftsman brand.
It's nothing fancy - just a plastic dial caliper.
I've seen them in numerous Sears, even up in NorCal when I was up there.


-Ted

deltr0n`

It comes in handy believe it or not, I think you'll use use more than a couple times.

88rxn/a

iTrader: (6)

ok, got the caliper..BTW these are nice calipers!!! and super fast shipping!!!!
BUT, im really not sure if i measured it correctly...IF i did, this is def. not a H trim...

88rxn/a

iTrader: (6)

the top picture is the exducer...i measured right at the tips of the blade on the bottom their...
the inducer i measured right at the tip of the blades to...
it looks closer to the Garrett T04B T5/T6 with the measurements....IF it is right...did i get ripped off?? i was told it was a H trim...what kind of power should i expect?? is it worth the money i paid??? what should i have paid for this???

88rxn/a

iTrader: (6)

anyone else have an idea if i measured it right?? maybe opinions on the Garrett T04B T5/T6 turbo it resembles??

RETed

Yep, if those measurements are accurate, you got ripped off.
I used to run a T5/T6 compressor side.
It's good for about 250 to 260 at the wheels at around 15psi.
It makes about 20 to 30 more hp over the stock compressor wheel.

Sorry about the bad news.
It's definitely NOT an H-trim.


-Ted