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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 03:35 PM
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How do u remove the pilot bearing?

My pilot bearing commit sucide the other day. I am installing another one tomorrow. how do I take out the bearing or tell if it is all out. it was in a lot of peices .
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 03:42 PM
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your choices are:
1. buy or rent a removal tool.
2. toilet paper method.

as for checking if it's all out, you're just going to have to find a way to look into the back of the shaft.
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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toilet paper method??
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 06:22 PM
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Good luck renting one. I tried all the local parts stores and all the pullers fingers are too wide to fit
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 06:58 PM
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I just check and I am not sure if the one I rented will work. Because all the needles are missing with the bearing in the car. So it may work
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Ive had to dremel out the old bearing several times before breaking down and actually buying the oem removal tool (mazdatrix sells em). Turns the job into a 10 minute affair
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 07:02 PM
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I will for next time. The car is sitting at the hobby shop where the charge me 4 bucks an hour if I am there or not
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 11:41 PM
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I used bearing puller, but i'm intrigued by this "toilet paper method"

can someone explain??
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 12:03 AM
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Maybe sarcasm? I know not of a "toilet paper method".

When I removed mine... It was in lots of little pieces. I got it out somehow. I totally forget what method I used. I do know that I tried to use a puller, and the fingers/jaws were too wide.
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 01:33 AM
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toilet paper method is similar to the grease method ,, but uses paper mache to hydraulic them out with a centre punch

have tried many times and just cant make those methods work in a rotary crank
me, uses the brutal dremel
and wished the tools you have readily avail from rotor shops where easier to get in my far flung corner
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JustJeff
Good luck renting one. I tried all the local parts stores and all the pullers fingers are too wide to fit
I rented one and ground off the tips of the "fingers" a bit, worked great.
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 07:45 AM
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It feels good to have the official Mazda bearing removal tool in the garage ... takes less than 10 seconds and it came right out

if u live nearby NYC I can bring the tool over to let u use it ... oh well.
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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"Blind Hole" puller from Harbor Freight. Best $50.00 you'll spend. The time and aggravation that it will save you is worth the cost. You can find a 20% off coupon if you open a magazine.

http://www.harborfreight.com/blind-h...ler-95987.html
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by LunchboxCritter
"Blind Hole" puller from Harbor Freight. Best $50.00 you'll spend. The time and aggravation that it will save you is worth the cost. You can find a 20% off coupon if you open a magazine.

http://www.harborfreight.com/blind-h...ler-95987.html
Nice.
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by LunchboxCritter
"Blind Hole" puller from Harbor Freight. Best $50.00 you'll spend. The time and aggravation that it will save you is worth the cost. You can find a 20% off coupon if you open a magazine.

http://www.harborfreight.com/blind-h...ler-95987.html
+ 9896875

This is one of a few jobs I'll never do again without the right tool. A buddy has the tool for that now, or else I'd have bought it by now.

One of the others is removing a flywheel. Got an impact gun for that, for next time.

Believe me, the aggravation and time wasted otherwise just isn't worth the money saved.
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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i rented tool and ground it down till it fit.
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LunchboxCritter
"Blind Hole" puller from Harbor Freight. Best $50.00 you'll spend. The time and aggravation that it will save you is worth the cost. You can find a 20% off coupon if you open a magazine.

http://www.harborfreight.com/blind-h...ler-95987.html
This.
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 12:57 PM
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Autozone rents an identical set.
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by stevensimon
i rented tool and ground it down till it fit.
This is my plan. I am planning on keeping the puller as it is only $14
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dwb87
Maybe sarcasm? I know not of a "toilet paper method".
no. not at all. i wish i had come back to this thread earlier, but oh well. i was being quite serious.

Originally Posted by bumpstart
toilet paper method is similar to the grease method ,, but uses paper mache to hydraulic them out with a centre punch

have tried many times and just cant make those methods work in a rotary crank
yep. basically you're using pressurized water to force it out by stuffing pieces of wet toilet paper in there and compressing it with a hammer and your choice of wedge (extension or similar rod-like thing). i remember when i first read about it, i held great skepticism. however, i can say that i've done it and aside from destroying a good socket extension and the mess, this method works just fine.

in all fairness though, i did it with a disassembled engine, so i was able to put the shaft wherever i wanted. i can definitely see it being a huge pain in the *** if you're doing it with an engine actually mounted in the car.

i also had an experience renting a removal tool from AutoZone. my girlfriend actually suggested it because i had resigned myself to ordering the "correct" removal tool, but would obviously have to wait for it to get to me from California. anyway, i think the AutoZone tool probably worked for me because my bearing had disassembled itself and therefore left me with diameter of the race only.
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
It feels good to have the official Mazda bearing removal tool in the garage ... takes less than 10 seconds and it came right out

if u live nearby NYC I can bring the tool over to let u use it ... oh well.
Totally agree, the mazda tool just makes the job so simple. Especially if you have the puller and the installer as well.
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 07:16 PM
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Well I broke the tool from o'reilly. went and bought the tool from harbor freight, mess that one up a bit, it may still work???? ended up using my gremel and sanded it down enough it it basically cut it. that took about 4 hrs. I may have to wait till monday to work on my car again. if it is not done on monday the next day will be thrusday. I work this weekend and work when the hobby shop is open.
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