2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

How is 87 turbo engine different from NA?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-03-02, 08:52 AM
  #1  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
Kreb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
How is 87 turbo engine different from NA?

An aqaintance is considering getting rid of his 87 T2 - basically clean but shot apex seals et cetera. Can I use the motor out of my N/A 87? If not, what about used japanese market motors? They were almost all turbo, wren't they?
Old 12-03-02, 08:59 AM
  #2  
What Subscription?

 
banzaitoyota's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Aiken SC USA
Posts: 5,926
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
NA motors are 6 port
Turbo motors are 4 port

USED JSPECS are a Crap shhot, they are good for cores to rebuild.

Japan FC's were ALL Turbo
Old 12-03-02, 09:27 AM
  #3  
I dont know a damn thing

iTrader: (1)
 
Rotorific's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Evans, Ga
Posts: 1,703
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Also the rotors have an 8.5cr for the 4 port
Your best bet is to get a rebuilt motor for the turbo.
Old 12-03-02, 12:01 PM
  #4  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
Angel Guard Racing Team's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Puerto Rico Land Of The Fastest Rotaries
Posts: 975
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Use the TII side housings so that the intake manifold will fit.
Old 12-03-02, 02:43 PM
  #5  
Rotor Head

 
DC350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 1,966
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by banzaitoyota


USED JSPECS are a Crap shhot, they are good for cores to rebuild.

Japan FC's were ALL Turbo
What the hell is that supposed to mean! I should not get one now? Sheat
Old 12-03-02, 03:18 PM
  #6  
Engine, Not Motor

iTrader: (1)
 
Aaron Cake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: London, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 29,789
Likes: 0
Received 108 Likes on 91 Posts
The turbo and NA engines are completely different. Among other things, they have different irons, housings, rotors, lower and upper intake, front cover, wiring harnesses and ECUs. There are many more differences, but suffice it to say it is not a direct swap.

As for J-specs, just remember that you're buying a wrecking yard engine. You might get a bridgeported monster with a T66, you might get a stock engine ready to blow. It's a gamble.
Old 12-04-02, 03:58 AM
  #7  
Rotor Head

 
DC350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 1,966
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Although most of the places say that they are fully leak tested compression tested washed all that stuff.

Do you reccomend buying a TII engine? Or a j-spec
Old 12-05-02, 05:11 AM
  #8  
Rotor Head

 
DC350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 1,966
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ttt
Old 12-05-02, 10:09 AM
  #9  
Former Moderator. RIP Icemark.
 
Icemark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Rohnert Park CA
Posts: 25,896
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 19 Posts
Originally posted by DC350
Although most of the places say that they are fully leak tested compression tested washed all that stuff.

Do you reccomend buying a TII engine? Or a j-spec
A J-spec is a T2 engine...

I am sure a couple of other people will back me up on this, but IMO, J-spec engines are nothing more than decent cores for rebuilding. Any motor that has been sitting in some Japanese junkyard for the last 10 years is going to be in poor condition. To top that off, most of the ones that were in good condition were found 3 or 4 years ago.

Notice how most USED Japanese engine sellers are saying no warranty or only a 90 day warranty on rotaries anymore... its because they too know that the motors are all crap from sitting or worse and won't last more than a couple of weeks.

Now, don't get me wrong... I think they are great for conversions (NA to T2), but only when rebuilt first. But the odds of getting a Jspec that will not need a rebuild in the next 5000 miles is almost 1,000,000 to 1.
Old 12-05-02, 10:26 AM
  #10  
Moderator

iTrader: (1)
 
silverrotor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Toronto, Corporate Canada
Posts: 7,592
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Thats a shitty probability!
Old 12-05-02, 10:36 AM
  #11  
Former Moderator. RIP Icemark.
 
Icemark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Rohnert Park CA
Posts: 25,896
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 19 Posts
Originally posted by silverrotor
Thats a shitty probability!
I might be exaggerating a little there, but it seems that all the Jspecs I have seen now for the last year or two, just have been in poor condition from just sitting too long.
Old 12-05-02, 12:46 PM
  #12  
Senior Member

 
787B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Topeka, KS
Posts: 445
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
not to mention the TII redlines @ 7K and the S5 NA @ 8K
Old 12-06-02, 04:40 AM
  #13  
Rotor Head

 
DC350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 1,966
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I know j-specs are TII i just meant american car engines to Japan race engines you might get a bridgeported beast as aaron stated. Or a normal engine ready to explode!

Thanks Ice
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
trickster
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
25
07-01-23 04:40 PM
Kyo
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
6
04-13-19 09:24 AM
Professorpeanutrx7
New Member RX-7 Technical
5
08-15-15 01:38 PM



Quick Reply: How is 87 turbo engine different from NA?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:36 AM.