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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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hocky pucks

have you guys ever herd of using hockey pucks as engine mounts bushing... there harder then stock mounts and just cut them to size... and you can lower you center of gravty by cutting them thinner..

im in the middle of a rebuild now and sence i have to take the motor out i wanna give these hockey pucks a try
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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yup

dunno if its been done on a rx7 but should work.
people use em to raise teh bodies on trucks

http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/173773-diy-thread.html
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...t/IMG_4017.jpg
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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It's funny, here in Nova Scotia we have yearly safety inspections on all cars, and in the safety inspection guide for what gets checked, it specifically says no hockey pucks for motor mounts.

If your state or province has a visual inspection you may want to check if they are specifically not allowed.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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i think the instapection here in md is only when you first get the car you have to get it inspected in order to get it registerd
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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My friend had some on his KA swap in his S13. They were pretty stiff, and seemed to work better than the worn out stock mounts. Not to mention they are readily available and fairly easy to work with. Not sure if I would use them on my car but it might be worth a try if you're willing to experiment.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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i had solid lathe-turned aluminum mounts on my s13, loved em. Hated the added noise of vibration though.. I think the hockey pucks you wont experience that, they shouldnt be as harsh.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeile
have you guys ever herd of using hockey pucks as engine mounts bushing... They're harder then stock mounts and just cut them to size... and you can lower you center of gravty by cutting them thinner..

im in the middle of a rebuild now and since i have to take the motor out i wanna give these hockey pucks a try
Way to ghetto for my taste, coming from a hockey player too. The pucks are going to lower the motor too much, IMNSHO. Soild mounts can be had new for $55. If you can't afford $55 for engine mounts, try another hobby. Not trying to be a dick, but come on.

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It's funny, here in Nova Scotia we have yearly safety inspections on all cars, and in the safety inspection guide for what gets checked, it specifically says no hockey pucks for motor mounts.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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i had them on my 240sx. loved them as the engine had no movement. great for drifting. i hated the vibration, though on warm days it was barely noticeable. but on cold days the interior would rattle nicely. never had a problem with them, never cracked and showed any wear. i had them on for about 6 months or so.

its not ghetto, its rubber that will tolerate under hood conditions. sure its made for playing hockey but work just as great as those expensive performance mounts that cost $140 or so.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 04:01 AM
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It's an old trick in the 4x4 world for doing a body lift. Typically the pucks hold up better then the store bought kits as well as being cheaper. I'd have now problems doing it on my car ... it's not any different then walking into an industrial rubber supplier and asking for some cut offs except it's easier to find the pucks.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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but work just as great as those expensive performance mounts that cost $140 or so.
So you're saying that I could've just grabbed a few of my old hockey pucks, drilled through them, used a solid bolt to mount the engine, and it'll work just as well as the MazdaComp mounts I bought. NO, SO wrong.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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If you really, really, really must make a set of improper solid mounts, then just have some aluminum stock cut at the local metal store. 2.5" in diameter, solid, 2.5" tall. Most metal shops will cut it with their band saw for only a few more dollars. Then drill a hole through the middle and use a high grade bolt.

HOWEVER, this is the wrong way to do it. All force as the engine torques is put on the bolt on the opposite mount. This is why all good aftermarket solid mounts tend to just not have a fastener straight through and are molded with some "give" between ends of the bolt.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
If you really, really, really must make a set of improper solid mounts, then just have some aluminum stock cut at the local metal store. 2.5" in diameter, solid, 2.5" tall. Most metal shops will cut it with their band saw for only a few more dollars. Then drill a hole through the middle and use a high grade bolt.

HOWEVER, this is the wrong way to do it. All force as the engine torques is put on the bolt on the opposite mount. This is why all good aftermarket solid mounts tend to just not have a fastener straight through and are molded with some "give" between ends of the bolt.
I agree completely. If you really hate the stock mounts, take them out and get someone to machine an alluminum set. The hockey puck thing can be done, but it is not a good idea. You don't have to spend big dollars to get a good set of mounts, but hockey pucks are not the way to go. Those kind of things make me laugh everytime I see them when I look at a vehicle someone has fixed themself.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Craiger
It's funny, here in Nova Scotia we have yearly safety inspections on all cars, and in the safety inspection guide for what gets checked, it specifically says no hockey pucks for motor mounts.

If your state or province has a visual inspection you may want to check if they are specifically not allowed.
Figures they would have to list it specifically about hockey pucks in Canada
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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So you're saying that I could've just grabbed a few of my old hockey pucks, drilled through them, used a solid bolt to mount the engine, and it'll work just as well as the MazdaComp mounts I bought. NO, SO wrong.
i never had a problem with them, i abused that car pretty well. i cant compare them to a set of mazdacomp mounts because i have no experience with them. though with the latter you paid for the peace of mind of R&D. but as with a lot of things like this they are dogged on by people who have never used them.

just ask those who have used them and they will tell you that they work just fine if you dont mind some vibration in the cabin.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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Well I know the guys in OTTAWA should actually Do this.
Seeing their Team Sucks and doesn't know What the Fark to do with a Real Puck anyways!..(I'd rather watch Slow Motion Golf!).
but Hockey puck mod?..Ya,Heard of it,(3 years ago),but I also heard they will Bust in Half too.So Not for me.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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I like my Himni Solid mounts just fine. Plus i have the piece of mind that they are doing what they are made for. Unlike the hockey pucks that are made to be slapped around a piece of ice.

On a truck for a body lift that is fine because the body isnt putting out heat our putting a ton of torque on the puck that is made of cheap rubber and just like the stock mount will snap in half.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by danielson
its not ghetto, its rubber that will tolerate under hood conditions. sure its made for playing hockey but work just as great as those expensive performance mounts that cost $140 or so.
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i never had a problem with them, i abused that car pretty well. i cant compare them to a set of mazdacomp mounts because i have no experience with them. though with the latter you paid for the peace of mind of R&D. but as with a lot of things like this they are dogged on by people who have never used them.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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******* cheapass FC owners I swear
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
If you really, really, really must make a set of improper solid mounts, then just have some aluminum stock cut at the local metal store. 2.5" in diameter, solid, 2.5" tall. Most metal shops will cut it with their band saw for only a few more dollars. Then drill a hole through the middle and use a high grade bolt.

HOWEVER, this is the wrong way to do it. All force as the engine torques is put on the bolt on the opposite mount. This is why all good aftermarket solid mounts tend to just not have a fastener straight through and are molded with some "give" between ends of the bolt.
Absolutely.

There's only ONE aftermarket engine mount that's properly designed, it's made by AWR and costs a lot more than the competition because there's so much more to it. The Mazda comp mounts are the only other acceptable option other than stock IMHO. I have Mazda comp mounts on the entire drivetrain and I'm very happy with them.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 12:36 AM
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******* cheapass FC owners I swear
So true, so sad.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 01:12 AM
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Whats so confusing? i used to own a nissan 240sx, i can compare to the nismo performance mounts, thats what i was saying that they work just as well as those perfomance ones. i have never used mazdacomp ones.

i think everyone just hates the idea because its not a car part or made for one. its vulcanized rubber so it will last quiet some time. i know a few people who have used the same set for more then a year with no problems and this is on their weekend drift cars.

if you feel like someone is going to call you ghetto or an idiot for using them then dont. i just know they work pretty damn good. its not about being a cheap *** either, especially if its proven to work equally if not better then performance.

one more thing i bet everyone hating on them in this thread has never had first hand experience with them. guaranteed.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeile
have you guys ever herd of using hockey pucks as engine mounts bushing... there harder then stock mounts and just cut them to size... and you can lower you center of gravty by cutting them thinner..

im in the middle of a rebuild now and sence i have to take the motor out i wanna give these hockey pucks a try
I use them. I use 2 on each side on my FD. I have zero vibration and it handles 35lbs of boost with no movement. On the dyno, the engine does not move, no need for an engine torque brace. I drag race a lot and these hold up excellent to the constant abuse.

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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC
I use them. I use 2 on each side on my FD. I have zero vibration and it handles 35lbs of boost with no movement. On the dyno, the engine does not move, no need for an engine torque brace. I drag race a lot and these hold up excellent to the constant abuse.

Anthony
The FD mounts in a different spot and the mounts sit on a different angle than the FC. IMO, and without doing any math to prove it, this allows a mount with a solid bolt stright through to preform better than on an FC. Note, I'm not saying it's good on and FD, just better than on an FC. Either way... pucks are still in fact the wrong way to do it, and as I said above, Illeagle in at least one province.

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Figures they would have to list it specifically about hockey pucks in Canada
I was waiting for someone to comment on that!

And my mistake, it is actually body mounts that can't be hockey pucks not motor mounts. Either way, the funny part is still the fact that is does specifically say hockey pucks. I hadn't read that part all that closely before since it didn't concern me.
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