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Old 09-20-05, 10:03 PM
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Ok guys Iv put some money away and am beginning to compile parts to turbo my n/a motor once the rebuild is broken in. However im new to turbos and while i know how they work and how my setup will work I dont know a damn thing about trim sizes, hybrids hotsides ect.

BAsically I want something that would be good for the quarter mile and still fun to drive on the highway and street. It would also be nice to be able to outrun your avergae m3 and MkIV (the guys who crack on my fc the most). Im looking for a used unit and trying not to spend over $500 on the turbo itself but i can afford slightly higher.

ANy help will be appreciated by my ignorant ***.
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save up more money, than ask the question again, if you do this wrong you'll pop your motor the first time you boost.
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for 500 bucks on a good turbo itself is going to be kind of hard but good luck! check ebay!
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you're not going to outrun an M3 or MKIV supe with $500.

If you can weld, you can pick up a CT-26 from a MKIII Supra and all the plumbing lines and stuff for $250 (if you shop)...but even with that you're not going ot outrun them.
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do it once, do it right. (and spend mroe than 500)
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SO whats a good price for a turbo fit for the fc to make the kind of power im looking for?

How bout we forget the price and I just kindly ask for some turbo's that can accomplish this...
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t04 i dunno pick one, anything just do it right, engine management and everything, you skip out an anything you'll be sorry. Spare no expense, i have a stock rx7 turbo (HT18-2S) sitting in my garage, i COULD turbo my car right now, but it wouldnt be worth the blown engine, I'm saving for EMS and everything.
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bnr has plenty of turbos to chose from, check out their website
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If you're wanting to compete with M3's and MKIV's you're in for some work. Bare minimum you're going to have to go factory turbo to catch M3's...you can get a full JDM low mileage clip from Jarco Inc for about $2500 shipped.

Best bang for the buck, though, would be a non-rotory engine swap. You can pick up and LS1 and drop her in for less than $3000 if you know how to turn your own wrenches.

other interesting swaps would be viable, too...like the RB20DET r32 Skyline GTST clip that Jarco has in stock at the moment...or the JZA70 1jz-GTE clip they have...
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bnr has plenty of turbos to chose from, check out their website
BNR requires a core exchange, i dont have a core to exchange. I was thinking about going with a BNR stage 2 or 3 simply because i dont have to worry about manifolds and wastegates. Ive seen a few for sale at affordable prices in the for sale section but i figured id ask to see if it would be good for what im looking to do with it. The whole MkIV thing isnt really a goal as mch as an annoyed rant. But Im atleast looking for 300+ rwhp. Iv taken a few 1/4 miles rides in modded M3's and it was ******* awe inspiring. I need to feel that in my 7.
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Originally Posted by BklynRX7
BNR requires a core exchange, i dont have a core to exchange. I was thinking about going with a BNR stage 2 or 3 simply because i dont have to worry about manifolds and wastegates. Ive seen a few for sale at affordable prices in the for sale section but i figured id ask to see if it would be good for what im looking to do with it. The whole MkIV thing isnt really a goal as mch as an annoyed rant. But Im atleast looking for 300+ rwhp. Iv taken a few 1/4 miles rides in modded M3's and it was ******* awe inspiring. I need to feel that in my 7.
Yeah? Keep in mind that getting a reliable 300rwhp in an FC will cost about the same as getting an E36 M3.
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If you're wanting to compete with M3's and MKIV's you're in for some work. Bare minimum you're going to have to go factory turbo to catch M3's...you can get a full JDM low mileage clip from Jarco Inc for about $2500 shipped.

Best bang for the buck, though, would be a non-rotory engine swap. You can pick up and LS1 and drop her in for less than $3000 if you know how to turn your own wrenches.

other interesting swaps would be viable, too...like the RB20DET r32 Skyline GTST clip that Jarco has in stock at the moment...or the JZA70 1jz-GTE clip they have...

Well im turboing my n/a so i wouldnt need a clip just the mani's and turbo. Thanks for the other advice bit if I ever decide I want pistons I will sell my 7 and buy a car with pistons.
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Originally Posted by BklynRX7
Well im turboing my n/a so i wouldnt need a clip just the mani's and turbo. Thanks for the other advice bit if I ever decide I want pistons I will sell my 7 and buy a car with pistons.
It's a lot more complicated than just slapping on the manifolds and turbo

Time to start using this.
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i got my turbo WITH manifold WITH actuators WITH intercooler for 250 :-)

use the stock fc TII turbo, or your car will probably implode if you use a big turbo, remember n/a engines arent ment to really handle turbo induction


...coming from the guy whose starting his turbo project tomorrow...
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i would go with a stock turbo and manifold and i wouldnt run more than 7 lbs. Tweek your AFM and upgrade your fuel pump and injectors. I dont see this for less than $500.

Are your internals all factory?
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Originally Posted by k-rok
i got my turbo WITH manifold WITH actuators WITH intercooler for 250 :-)

use the stock fc TII turbo, or your car will probably implode if you use a big turbo, remember n/a engines arent ment to really handle turbo induction


...coming from the guy whose starting his turbo project tomorrow...

Tell that to my car running on a GT35R.... That wasn't even enough for me, now I've got a GT42R coming!
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^owned....what are you doing with the one you have...dibs
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oh yeah...and hope you have a lot of time and money put away...im $1200 in the hole and i got **** cheap....see my thread "K-Rok's turbo'd n/a blah blah blah"
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The 35R I already sold
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Do it right the first time and do it once. Yes its allot of money.

T04S GT35R GR67 TD0620G
Mani of your choice
HKS 50mm waste gate
FMIC setup

A appropriate fuel system on a standalone EMS

I am assuming you are wanting to compete with a decently moded M3 and Supra or you would not be asking this ? If you are wanting to beat stock ones in your FC get a BNR II and call it a day on a mega squirt some 780cc and 920cc injetors and get a good tuner

RG1 - How do you tweak an AFM? A why only 7psi? There is no reason he cannot run 12 with a proper setup. Either way he should run a stand-alone EMS for proper tuning.
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[QUOTE=iceblueRG1 - How do you tweak an AFM?[/quote]

Tighten the flapper to be less responsive to boost.

A why only 7psi? There is no reason he cannot run 12 with a proper setup. Either way he should run a stand-alone EMS for proper tuning.
Not going to be able to run 12psi on an NA block with $500...for long....
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How? Where did you find a gt35R, maifold, intercooler, and all the plumbing plus the extra fuel for $500?
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Originally Posted by Makenzie71
Not going to be able to run 12psi on an NA block with $500...for long....
If you don't know, please don't make assumptions and do not post, since you do not have first hand experience. Obviously its a good idea to spend more and set it up better, but you really have no experience in this modification, so why are you giving advice based on something you haven't done?
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Originally Posted by Makenzie71
How? Where did you find a gt35R, maifold, intercooler, and all the plumbing plus the extra fuel for $500?
He's not talking about that setup... He's talking about his old setup on a stock s4 n/a block with stock turbo/manifold and other stuff.

The gt42R is going on his GTUs block.

In fact, Iceblue never mentioned only spending 500 dollars. Read RG1's post, he said not to run more than 7lbs, and then said he doesn't see this happening for less than 500 dollars. Iceblue then asked why no less than 7psi, no mention of 500.

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