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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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Heading to the Junkyard what efan should i get???

So far i am aware of two fans that people have claimed to fit the FC Rad perfectly.
They are from early 90's valvo 940 and 960's as well as 95' style ford tourus's. So does anyone have any other fans that fit with little to no modifications.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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Escort fans should fit nicely and are a minor power draw compared to others. Though I would be interested to know if a 94 thunderbird fan would fit perfectly....used to have one and it was nice a big, cooled quickly but was very possibly a big amp puller.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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I've heard good things about Fiero e-fans .
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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just use the stock fan.

taurus fans cool very well, but they're a HUGE current draw on the already overburdened electrical system.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 03:15 AM
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yeah my freind said the fiero fan is good, i got one from him ,but im to lazy to install it... looks like a decent fit.... some kind of custom bracket will be required tho...
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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whats wrong with the stock fan?
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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I was thinking the same thing about the escort fan that it would be a good fit. Probably less of a current draw then the Taurus fan, but I love my Taurus fan so I won't get rid of it yet.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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Pontiac 6000 fans work well too. They can be found in almost all larger GMs of the era.

Also see http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/efanmyth.htm and http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/efaninstall.htm
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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I used the scort fan and never actually had it attached, it was just wedged into place and worked quite well.

The reason for me using an E-fan was the constant working on the engine. It makes it a lot easier when you don't have a gian plastic shroud in the way.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Wankel7
whats wrong with the stock fan?
my point exactly
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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The reason for me using an E-fan was the constant working on the engine. It makes it a lot easier when you don't have a gian plastic shroud in the way.
In the way of what? What's down there that you need to get to "constantly"?
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
In the way of what? What's down there that you need to get to "constantly"?
lol.... i thought the same thing....... there is nothing down there that needs to be gotten to..... everything is accesible w/ the shroud on (unless your doing a waterpump or something) but nothing that needs to get done on a regular basis
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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In the way of what? What's down there that you need to get to "constantly"?
I had removed mine 9 times over the course of 3 days trying to fix an oil leak. I would soooo have loved an efan then. But ill be happy with stock until its not adequate enough.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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The last sentence of the fan myth link sums it all up for most.
"Perhaps the greatest advantage of the electric fan is cost. It provides an affordable alternative to replacing a failed stock clutch fan. The stock unit is very expensive when purchased new, so it is possible to save several hundred dollars by purchasing an electric fan instead."

Ill look of an escort fan seems to be what most like if they had a choice.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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oh ya what year escorts and fieros?
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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Cool

Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
my point exactly
You can say that again!
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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Feiro, escorts, taurus', and basically anything american will do. GM and FORD
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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i got one off an integra type r. hooked it up with a stat as well so i dont have to manually activate it
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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I removed my stock clutch fan and replaced it with the stock twin fans out of a first gen (MKI) Toyota MR2.

The reasons I did this were simple. The most importaint reason I did this was that the stock clutch was dead, and a new one costs more then the MR2 fans (I obtained these from a friend for $20). I also like having all that room in the engine bay, making it easier to change belts and observe engine operating conditions. (Such as if the OMP is actually pumping oil and not air, or if your waterpump is dripping due to a failed bearing)

The dual MR2 fan shrouds are made of metal and fit almost perfectly with a little bending. As anyone who has ever owned an MKI MR2 knows, everything metal on the car rusts out, so I had to wire wheel and then paint these fans (I didnt do a very good job on the shrouds, IMO). Then I painted the (off white) fans black with some special plastic coating stuff. I really like the way they came out.

I put weather stripping along the edge of the fan and then layed it on my radiator. I cut a few lenths of coat hanger up and then bent them in to create the brackets to hold the fans in place. Then I bent the metal flat around where the coolant hoses are run (I dont like the idea of my soft rubber hoses touching a vibrating metal fan shroud)

I tested each fan for polarity and then set them to pull air, then I ran the ground wire to the chasis right next to the fans. I used all 8 gauge wire. The positive wire went to a relay that is connected to the MegaSquirt.

The MegaSquirt switches the relay on whenever it sees the engine tempreture go OVER 200F (210F is the maximum acceptable operating tempreture) and switches it off around 184F

When the fans come on, it's totally insane how fast they cool down the radiator. You can put your hand behind the airstream and FEEL the tempreture drop in the air coming off the radiator. The coolant sensor input to the MegaSquirt hesitates a little, (The waterpump has to circulate the cool water, then the sensor has to catch up) then the display shows the tempreture drops 20 degrees almost instantly!

These fans are much quieter then most of the Black Magic fans that I have heard. The fans do not over tax my stock S5 alternator.

This install is on a 90 N/A 'Vert with A/C.

Attached is a picture of the fans being test fit before bending and weather stripping. The other attachment is a picture of after I bent it to clear the lower radiator heater hose.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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In the way of what? What's down there that you need to get to "constantly"?
its not so much that you need to get at anything ... it more of a preference mod i guess, any power gains/losses are going to be so low they shouldnt even be mentioned and your right, nothing is really there that needs to be maintained constantly ... so its more of a cleaning/fun mod to do i guess

escort, fiero and most smaller gm cars w/ efans will most likely work well. there are also aftermarket fans that work even better for a little more money
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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In the way of what? What's down there that you need to get to "constantly"?
Mostly replacing fan belts. The bearing in the alternator were going out and it kept snapping fan belts. I also had a minor oil leak from the OMP that i was tinkering with.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstRotaryExp
I had removed mine 9 times over the course of 3 days trying to fix an oil leak.
The smart thing to do would've been to leave it off for a few days until you were sure the leak was fixed.

Originally Posted by Tofuball
These fans are much quieter then most of the Black Magic fans that I have heard. The fans do not over tax my stock S5 alternator.
That's usually the way with OEM engineering. Aftermarket parts (not just fans) often do one thing very well and suck at everything else.

Originally Posted by Parastie
Mostly replacing fan belts.
Replacing belts is easy with the shroud on.

As already mentioned, cost is by far the biggest advantage an e-fan swap has over replacing a failed thermoclutch. Ripping of a perfectly good stock fan is just nuts.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 12:10 AM
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i picked up a 94 escort fan. Gunna install tom. as well as take out my power steering and dump my a/c. Woohoo fun times
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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My car came with a aftermarket radiator and efan. Since Im a neat freak I like having the extra room to clean under the hood. Since I have never delt with the stock fan, is it prone to failure?
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Not really prone to failure. But these cars are getting old, so I expect we'll start to see more and more of them fail. In my experience they fail more from sitting then use.
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