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Old 04-18-03, 09:39 AM
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headers on less power?

hi i just finished installing a rb streetable header on my car although i have kept my cat on the system and now it seems like all it did was make my car louder and slower? i am confused? does the 02 sensor need special wire or something cuz i used regulare wire to hook it up? would that cause a prob? thanx alot brandon
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I noticed MUCH more top end....you sure your 6 ports are still working?
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Your catalytic converters may be clogged if they are stock.
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02 sensor doesnt need special wiring...just try and match the guage of the wire you add...that would just make you run rich at idle...
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Freeing up the exhaust system on a pre 89 6-port system will most likely cause the 6-ports not to function because they are operted by backpressure from the exhaust... get somebody to rev 'er up to about 6k and poke yer head under the hood and see ifn' they open as he's revving 'er up... if not... then you're gonna have to either wire 'em open and lose your low end... or buy a summit racing rpm switch, a solenoid valve, some vaccume line and push an air line tap into the plumbing from your air pump run that to the solenoid, then split it after the solenoid to each six port actuator to get the pressure needed to open them......
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Hes still running a cat....6 ports should have more than enough pressure. You can run the rb header, the pre-silecner with has a feed tube for the 6 ports and its enough get the actuators to move.
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Thats all with NO cat by the way..
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Originally posted by YearsOfDecay
Freeing up the exhaust system on a pre 89 6-port system will most likely cause the 6-ports not to function because they are operted by backpressure from the exhaust... get somebody to rev 'er up to about 6k and poke yer head under the hood and see ifn' they open as he's revving 'er up... if not... then you're gonna have to either wire 'em open and lose your low end... or buy a summit racing rpm switch, a solenoid valve, some vaccume line and push an air line tap into the plumbing from your air pump run that to the solenoid, then split it after the solenoid to each six port actuator to get the pressure needed to open them......
That's not necessarily true. I thought the same thing, had someone rev my car twice while I looked at each actuator. Neither opened. I put a dab of grease on each one from someone else's advice, and drove it around. Both opened.

Also, some poeple have had their 6ports open with gutted cats, for what that's worth.
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Now if you run with the stock manifold and no cats..I've seen it stop acutators from opening ports...the header flows much more so actually will give more pessure.
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yeah.. it all depends on you car... as we know.. our girls are alll different!!! I'm just one for mechanical override!!!! I hate depending on exhaust pressure.. to many variables...(leaks, backpressure, forgot to hook it up!!) I want it to work exactly when I want it to!!!!!!! LOL

I actually designed an electric solenoid system to open the things once and cut the air pressure equasion out all together.. but then, i had access to a machine shop to get the brackets made to install the solenoids in place of the air operated actuators, don't have that luxury now!! but.... someone out there should take that idea and make a kit..... hey, maybe i should!!!!
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thanx alot guys i shall try to oil up my actuators, i halfway figured it had something to do with them. im goin to the track tomarro anything else i can do to help?
i have cone filter rb header and cat back and some driving skills any ideas of what i should be runnin?
thanx again fo da help
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High 15's if your lucky....low 16's....n/a's arent to quick in the 1/4 w/out some serious engine work.

I'm done with the N/A...boost, here I come!
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at the track I run around 15.1, but i have an '89, little more power... if you don't have a fresh air headlight cover... you can do one of two things to get colder air into your intake at the trak... 1) remove the passenger side headlight skin... 2, pull your headlight motor relay out and manually (by the little thing underneath the car crank up your passenger side headlight about an inch which will let air in between the back of the headlight and the hood.. but you have to remove the gasket on the front of the hood for that to work.. I averaged about 2 tenths better ET's after i got cold air into the box!!
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15.1 with no porting? How many miles on your engine? Just the mods in your sig I take it? Stock is like 16.1 or 16.3 or something....
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I wonder what I would run with my setup....probably nothing to satisy me, It'd be cool to know though. I need to go to track on a test and tune just to see.
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To some more N/A guys with non ignorant responses...is it desirable to just run off the header at the track, I'm running the RB. My ports are wired open right now so that wouldnt be a factor.....seems like it'd give you the best power exhaust wise. Whos ran with my similiar setup, no engine porting (not meaning manifold)??
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ill get back to yall with timeslips thanx for advice
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Decay you make a kit and I will buy one.
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