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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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Has anyone put an RX-8 6-Speed Tranny

...into an FC yet? How difficult was it?
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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i heard a few people have put in miata 6speeds i cant remeber if it is the same as the rx8 box or not. would be nice to have a newer tranny in these cars but i duno how much an extra gear would help acceleration and whatnot.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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if u provide me with the rx8 tranny free of charge i'll gladly swap it to see if its possible....
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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It's probly wouldnt be as good due to the shorter final drive. I say the original turbo tranny is better.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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From what I've heard, the bell housing has a completely different bolt pattern, so it'd be a no-go without some custom work.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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From what I've heard, the bell housing has a completely different bolt pattern, so it'd be a no-go without some custom work.
Weird I was talking with the guys at Yaw Power at Seven Stock 6. They said the pattern was the same and it should bolt up. Which makes perfect since to me, why would Mazda spend extra money re-engineering/tooling something like that when it's already there.

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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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Weird I was talking with the guys at Yaw Power at Seven Stock 6. They said the pattern was the same and it should bolt up. Which makes perfect since to me, why would Mazda spend extra money re-engineering/tooling something like that when it's already there.

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cause to save costs ... theyre using a popular "universal" renault tranny found in many new cars .... new miatas, new rx8s, new 350z and more
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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Weird I was talking with the guys at Yaw Power at Seven Stock 6. They said the pattern was the same and it should bolt up. Which makes perfect since to me, why would Mazda spend extra money re-engineering/tooling something like that when it's already there.

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cause to save costs ... theyre using a popular "universal" renault tranny found in many new cars .... new miatas, new rx8s, new 350z and more
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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i thoiught it was the same bolt pattern,.. The tranny is of the shelf, but its not in the 350z, its in the miata, the rx8 and the lexus is200 (not 300) The trans is actually pretty weak, rx8 ppl are blowing trans allready. Just because the internals are off the shelf doesnt mean they cant slap a bellhousing on it. you dont really expect an is200, miata and rx8 to all share the smae bolt pattern do you?
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 08:53 AM
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The Renesis has the same bolt pattern for the transmission bell housing:

http://www.yawpower.com/renespic.html

Also:
http://www.google.com/search?q=renesis+bolt+pattern
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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if u provide me with the rx8 tranny free of charge i'll gladly swap it to see if its possible....

ditto...
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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The Renesis has the same bolt pattern for the transmission bell housing:

http://www.yawpower.com/renespic.html

Also:
http://www.google.com/search?q=renesis+bolt+pattern
Word, thanks for the link

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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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Forget the transmission, thats a pretty awesome looking intake manifold, I wonder if THAT could swap around
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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Yeah, how many of you can afford a transmission that costs MORE than your car?


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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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I'd hold off on that thought...a local guy with an 8 is having some "issues" with his transmission with a whopping 10K miles or so...ice in a blender.
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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I was thinking about this a couple of weeks ago. Seeing the add's on thepartstrader only fueled this

However, if your browse the rx8 forums, you will find far to many thread's regarding problems with the 6speed's such as having going into gears 1st or 3rd gear easily, or at all

reading a few of thoes made me change my mind

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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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also ive read of atleast 3 of them blowing up allready, needing complete replacment. The rx8 is a couple hundred pound heavier though but i think a T2 would kill it quickly still.
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 08:54 PM
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Don't forget to mention there are people that are breaking the Limited Slip Differentials.

Still, the RX-8 is bad ***.
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by drago86
also ive read of atleast 3 of them blowing up allready, needing complete replacment. The rx8 is a couple hundred pound heavier though but i think a T2 would kill it quickly still.
Stock RX7 TII 183HP
Stock RX8 N/A 238HP. I believe.

Am I using the new math? I don't know.

All I know is I want the Mazdaspeed turbo 8.
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by Wizz
Stock RX7 TII 183HP
Stock RX8 N/A 238HP. I believe.

Am I using the new math? I don't know.

All I know is I want the Mazdaspeed turbo 8.

S4 TIIs are 183hp roughly..
S5 TIIs are 200hp roughly
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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Originally posted by Wizz
Stock RX7 TII 183HP
Stock RX8 N/A 238HP. I believe.
Torque breaks gearboxes, not power.

Stock S4 RX-7 Turbo: 183 ft-lb
Stock S5 RX-7 Turbo: 196 ft-lb
Stock RX-8: 159 ft-lb

Longterm I wouldn't trust an RX-8 gearbox behind a modded Turbo, especially if they're breaking already.

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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:37 AM
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RX-8 gearboxes are breaking with only 159 peak torque? Why must Mazda screw over (and damn the future of) the Wankel Rotary so?
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by NZConvertible
Torque breaks gearboxes, not power.

Stock S4 RX-7 Turbo: 183 ft-lb
Stock S5 RX-7 Turbo: 196 ft-lb
Stock RX-8: 159 ft-lb

Longterm I wouldn't trust an RX-8 gearbox behind a modded Turbo, especially if they're breaking already.
LOL a pretty good guideline is :

Horsepower gives you the speed to hit the wall--Torque gives you the strength to move it
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 06:48 AM
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hmm, well then...sounds like my wussy N/A engine would be an ideal candidate for an RX-8 tranny.

So why don't you guys send one my way, and I'll do all the testing for you!

Actually, within a year, I'm sure you'll be able to find RX-8 trannies in good shape in a junkyard somewhere.
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