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Old Feb 24, 2017 | 05:59 PM
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Arrow H6054 LED Headlamps?

Has anyone tried using the H6054 Led headlamps yet? I tried the retrofit hids, regular clear lens and I think all of them sucks. just too much scattered light.
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Old Feb 24, 2017 | 09:45 PM
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if you go cheap, all options are going to suck.

HIDs work fine, if you use a projector with a cutoff.
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Old Feb 24, 2017 | 11:22 PM
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I tried that too.
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Old Feb 25, 2017 | 06:28 AM
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I sincerely doubt you tried proper xenon projectors retrofitted into h6054's with clear plastic lenses. You likely tried the fake projector ones that you buy off Amazon or eBay.. Why not try to educate yourself before you go for a forward lighting upgrade?

Here, let me help you...

Standard sealed beams are based off of beam optics that are probably twice as old as you are.

You cannot simply pick up a set of semi sealed beams and drop in a rebased xenon bulb.. A halogen bulb emits light from a very exact focal point in the bulb globe. The filament.. Where as a xenon bulb emits light over a much greater portion of the 'globe'. This means that ANY headlamp designed for halogen, reflector or projector, will not provide safe or usable results. Why? Because you'll have altered that expected focal point from where the light gets collected by the reflectors and projected out onto the road in front of you, pushing the beam pattern out of focus.. This creates hot spots, dark spots, and dangerous glare for other motorists.

Additionally, not all projectors are created equal. A halogen projector will NOT perform the same way as a true xenon projector. Many Internet sellers claim they have hid xenon projectors when in fact they are halogen or rebased halogen units.

You've got two options.. One is that you go through a reputable vendor and buy a set of Hella or Cibie e-codes.. These are semi sealed beam and require h4 halogen bulbs. The beam optics are a lot tighter and more modern. Trust me when I say it's a worthy investment... Much cleaner, wider, brighter beam pattern out in front of you at night.. And virtually no glare for others.

The second option is that you buy a set of cheap clear plastic lensed semi sealed beams, and also purchase true bi-xenon projectors from a reputable vendor and do the work yourself.

Jwspeaker are the only led h6054 lights I'd ever even come close to considering, but they're also very expensive.

Do not fool yourself into thinking you'll get good cheap led lights for like 200 bucks. Even if they provide you with enough light, they will start to fail quickly.. Color Temps will vary.. But most importantly, you'll be blinding other motorists which could cause a pretty serious accident... And then you wouldn't so much have to concern yourself with what kind of headlamps you're running....

That's as nutshell as I'm willing to make this.. And to be honest, I'm a little tired of having this conversation with people lol guys at work tease me and call me their 'forward lighting specialist' because I get so crazy about headlights.. But a good headlight is safety. A poor one is an accident waiting to happen.
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Old Feb 25, 2017 | 09:51 AM
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and cheap LEDs will just burn out, and that's not something you want is headlights burning out at a rate much quicker than halogens.
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 09:03 AM
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GE has a LED light. It's split in half inside for high beam and low. But I paid 300+ for then. Works fantastic.

Edit: here you go.
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PnoyRx7
GE has a LED light. It's split in half inside for high beam and low. But I paid 300+ for then. Works fantastic.

Edit: here you go. https://www.amazon.ca/GE-NIGHTHAWK-R.../dp/B00BQX2BSO
wow I didn't even know they made those, those look pretty cool
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 08:21 PM
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wow I didn't even know they made those, those look pretty cool

Funny thing is I only noticed them because the new Shunt trucks at work came with them so I had to purchase a set. They are really bright
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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PnoyRx7
GE has a LED light. It's split in half inside for high beam and low. But I paid 300+ for then. Works fantastic.

Edit: here you go. https://www.amazon.ca/GE-NIGHTHAWK-R.../dp/B00BQX2BSO
just realized that's just for one. not a pair. lol.
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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 11:01 PM
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This one doesn't look bad at all
///IPF? 351HLB LED HEAD LAMP CONVERSION KIT

Cutoff seems fine, someone already tried it on a Honda Fit

DIY: IPF LED Headlight and Foglight Conversion (H4 model 341HLB and H11 model 101FLB) - Unofficial Honda FIT Forums
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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 07:54 AM
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https://www.gtrlighting.com/

I've gone to these guys. They always take good care of me.
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Just checked Summit..
they got a LED headlight by GROTE...looks like it is suitable.(but price wise..meh...)
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I guess it takes sometime to get them prices down...
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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by R-X-R
Has anyone tried using the H6054 Led headlamps yet? I tried the retrofit hids, regular clear lens and I think all of them sucks. just too much scattered light.
Curious to know which retrofit HIDs did you tried? I am running the ebay version of the morimoto bixenon h2(?), with morimoto ballast and bulbs. Not spectacular happy with the setup...
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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 03:37 PM
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i have a few buddies that have put LED bulbs in their trucks, while the light seems brighter looking they all report the same thing- it does nothing to actually light the road up for driving. Expensive ones too not cheap stuff.
Dont be fooled into thinking just because the photos show a bright white that it will actually improve night driving

makes the light a bright white instead of yellow, but as far as visibility- zero

if your retrofit doesnt have a nice sharp cut off like this you did something wrong or used cheap crap
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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 05:05 PM
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your wall has "hi beams"..
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You didn't have a real hid retrofit if it didn't look like this.
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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
Curious to know which retrofit HIDs did you tried? I am running the ebay version of the morimoto bixenon h2(?), with morimoto ballast and bulbs. Not spectacular happy with the setup...
its one that was made by someone in here with the retrofitsource kit.
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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 05:25 PM
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it has a good cut off. but it doesn't look bright. that's all.
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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by R-X-R
it has a good cut off. but it doesn't look bright. that's all.
Is it one of mine? It should look like my photo. That is pretty much as good as it is going to get unless you want to do some cutting to the car to fit a bigger projector.
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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 06:19 PM
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but ur is on a different car.
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but ur is on a different car.
Yes but it is the same projector so output will be the same.
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Originally Posted by R-X-R
its one that was made by someone in here with the retrofitsource kit.
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it has a good cut off. but it doesn't look bright. that's all.
I made my own, but basically same as the kit that you purchased.

And I agree, when lightning a wall, it looks awesome, but when driving on roads with some sort of lightning (whether from the moon, or because of light post), there is really no light coverage. When driving through rural/woods area, the light coverage is adequate.

I even went as far as removing the headlamp casing front cover, with marginal improvements.

I will be stepping up to either a better bulb, or bi-xenon projector (or both). Its just another project on the things to do to the FC.
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Old Mar 1, 2017 | 01:09 PM
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^ exactly....something about this flip up headlight cars lol.
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i dont know what to tell you guys, I did back to back testing with one of our brand new cars and my FC had just as good if not even slightly better lighting than they did. I drove around the neighborhood , through parking lots, taking notice of how far and clear I could see, even counted parking spaces in a lot as a guide to how far each car's lighting was effective

if you just want to blast the whole road with a bunch of lights I think you will like the LEDs, I used them on my plow set up and it just washes the entire road in bright white light.
think about it - you are putting leds in a reflector housing, it will just be all over the place. Its really no different then just putting a HID kit in the reflector housing- at least you will save some money.
I bet the cost on those lights ties heavily to the DOT rating.

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