GXL vs. GTU
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to answer your question, Yeah. GXL's came standard with 5 lug.
I was lucky to get mine in the condition its in. It was well taken care of its whole life and im the third owner, with the first and second owners knowing each other. It's up there at 140,000 miles, but she still pulls strong. GXL's are great models, i highly recommend them.
I was lucky to get mine in the condition its in. It was well taken care of its whole life and im the third owner, with the first and second owners knowing each other. It's up there at 140,000 miles, but she still pulls strong. GXL's are great models, i highly recommend them.
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Except when the A.A.S. breaks, the power steering starts leaking, the A/C dies, the sunroof sticks, the power windows go out, alarm stops working right, illuminated keyhole quit years ago, ultra-plush carpet is filthy and your once beautiful GXL Alloys get pitted...
Yeah, the GXL is the best N/A model in my opinion. Luxury....at a price.
Yeah, the GXL is the best N/A model in my opinion. Luxury....at a price.
well, i mostly right could have sworn i read about the gearing being different somewhere.... but the power steering is still different, and the aero package
"To commemorate this amazing victory, Mazda entered into the Rx7 line-up the GTU model which was made the new Sports Package. This model contained bigger brakes, variable-assist power steering, stiffer suspension, sportier seats, sportier side view mirrors, and a redesigned rear spoiler. The spoiler was a wrap around type with 2 pedestals in the middle....this replaced the earlier aero kit. The spoiler was made standard on the Turbo II. "
could have sworn i read about the gearing being different somewhere.... but the power steering is still different, and the aero package"To commemorate this amazing victory, Mazda entered into the Rx7 line-up the GTU model which was made the new Sports Package. This model contained bigger brakes, variable-assist power steering, stiffer suspension, sportier seats, sportier side view mirrors, and a redesigned rear spoiler. The spoiler was a wrap around type with 2 pedestals in the middle....this replaced the earlier aero kit. The spoiler was made standard on the Turbo II. "
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Originally Posted by vipers
well, i mostly right could have sworn i read about the gearing being different somewhere.... but the power steering is still different, and the aero package
"To commemorate this amazing victory, Mazda entered into the Rx7 line-up the GTU model which was made the new Sports Package. This model contained bigger brakes, variable-assist power steering, stiffer suspension, sportier seats, sportier side view mirrors, and a redesigned rear spoiler. The spoiler was a wrap around type with 2 pedestals in the middle....this replaced the earlier aero kit. The spoiler was made standard on the Turbo II. "
could have sworn i read about the gearing being different somewhere.... but the power steering is still different, and the aero package"To commemorate this amazing victory, Mazda entered into the Rx7 line-up the GTU model which was made the new Sports Package. This model contained bigger brakes, variable-assist power steering, stiffer suspension, sportier seats, sportier side view mirrors, and a redesigned rear spoiler. The spoiler was a wrap around type with 2 pedestals in the middle....this replaced the earlier aero kit. The spoiler was made standard on the Turbo II. "
The suspension differences were the same ones that the Turbo and Sport had... stiffer shock valving. They sport suspension was basicly the same shocks as the KYB aftermarket non adjustable suspension
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Originally Posted by Rotarctica
Except when the A.A.S. breaks, the power steering starts leaking, the A/C dies, the sunroof sticks, the power windows go out, alarm stops working right, illuminated keyhole quit years ago, ultra-plush carpet is filthy and your once beautiful GXL Alloys get pitted...
Originally Posted by Rotarctica
I drive an S4 GXL and love it. I wouldn't trade my power windows, Automatic Suspension or any of those other special little features for a GTU!
...might take a Turbo, though, if it were in as good of condition...possibly...maybe not...
...might take a Turbo, though, if it were in as good of condition...possibly...maybe not...
Autosuspension....should be useless by now if not replaced. Adjustable shocks are a gimmic for most people anyway.
Me luvs my manual windows. :P
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Originally Posted by Digi7ech
Everyone I knowdoesn't exactly like the auto windows because by now they've broken or needed to be rewired,cleaned,etc.
Autosuspension....should be useless by now if not replaced. Adjustable shocks are a gimmic for most people anyway.
Me luvs my manual windows. :P
Autosuspension....should be useless by now if not replaced. Adjustable shocks are a gimmic for most people anyway.
Me luvs my manual windows. :P
A.A.S. is handy. Softer ride until you need/want to shatter your spine. So no, it's not a gimmick. The system DOES work, regardless of what you may think.
Manual windows are good for one reason: You can roll them up and down with nothing but good, old fashioned hand power...and not your battery...
Originally Posted by Icemark
No he doesn't.
The 88 GTU (S4 came) with 5 lug wheels. The only S4 models to have single piston front brakes came with 4 lug wheels.
So either he has a base model 88 SE or he has a 89 (S5).
But he does not have a 88 GTU.
Man I don't get why everyone is being stupied in this thread. There was no special gearing on the 88 GTU. The 88 GTU uses the same brakes as all other non base models (like the GXL, Sport, GTUs (note the small S), the Turbo, the convertibles.
This is all covered in the WHAT DID MY CAR COME WITH STICKY THREAD found at the top of this section.
Stop posting BS people!
The only difference between the 88 GTU and the 88 GXL was that the GXL had power windows, addustible suspension, a sunroof (which was optional on the 88 GTU) and slightly nicer interior, while the GTU had the S4 aero kit.
There were not differences in brakes, gearing, engine, or even springs.
The 88 GTU (S4 came) with 5 lug wheels. The only S4 models to have single piston front brakes came with 4 lug wheels.
So either he has a base model 88 SE or he has a 89 (S5).
But he does not have a 88 GTU.
Man I don't get why everyone is being stupied in this thread. There was no special gearing on the 88 GTU. The 88 GTU uses the same brakes as all other non base models (like the GXL, Sport, GTUs (note the small S), the Turbo, the convertibles.
This is all covered in the WHAT DID MY CAR COME WITH STICKY THREAD found at the top of this section.
Stop posting BS people!
The only difference between the 88 GTU and the 88 GXL was that the GXL had power windows, addustible suspension, a sunroof (which was optional on the 88 GTU) and slightly nicer interior, while the GTU had the S4 aero kit.
There were not differences in brakes, gearing, engine, or even springs.
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Originally Posted by Rotarctica
Except when the A.A.S. breaks, the power steering starts leaking, the A/C dies, the sunroof sticks, the power windows go out, alarm stops working right, illuminated keyhole quit years ago, ultra-plush carpet is filthy and your once beautiful GXL Alloys get pitted...
Yeah, the GXL is the best N/A model in my opinion. Luxury....at a price.
Yeah, the GXL is the best N/A model in my opinion. Luxury....at a price.
My GXL is 19 years old. The A.A.S. still works, Power Steering has a slight leak, Ac works perfectly, Sunroof needs greasing, power windows both work great. and my carpet and rims look great as well. Its not about the car, it's about how you treat it to keep it working that way =).
As for an alarm, I'm not sure if that was an option from the factory or not, mine doesn't have one.
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if you mean security alarms I don't have any, if you mean idiot cluster alarms sure, that thing goes off all the time. My A.A.S works, not that it much to begin with, power steering's not leaking, AC works fine, sunroof works fine needs a bit greasing too, luminated keyhole's still constantly on, windows still work, only problem is radio attenna's been taken out so need to get that replaced, but taht's not a GXL problem. I like my luxuries, and as always, if I needed more speed, there's always the TII or 20b. They're only a hassle when they break, but that can be said about everything, if you don't want your engine to break, why don't you just bike everywhere?
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Originally Posted by SirCygnus
no. his is an s4 gtu, 5 lug with sun roof, manual windows, and power mirrors. s4 engine with s4 vin. and two piston brakes. all of it is factory.
There is no such thing as two piston brakes in a Mazda.
Perhaps you do not understand how the brakes work.
There are two pistons PER SIDE OF THE CALIPER.
For those mathematically challenged that means 4 pistons per front wheel. Hence the term "Four Piston Brakes"
Originally Posted by Icemark
No! the only differnece is 5th gear ratio between the 88 and 87 non turbo trannies
Mazdatrix shows that the 87-88 N/A tranny's are identical.
87-88 RX7 Non-Turbo
1st 3.475
2nd 2.002
3rd 1.366
4th 1.000
5th 0.697
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Originally Posted by My5ABaby
What is the difference?
Mazdatrix shows that the 87-88 N/A tranny's are identical.
87-88 RX7 Non-Turbo
1st 3.475
2nd 2.002
3rd 1.366
4th 1.000
5th 0.697
Mazdatrix shows that the 87-88 N/A tranny's are identical.
87-88 RX7 Non-Turbo
1st 3.475
2nd 2.002
3rd 1.366
4th 1.000
5th 0.697
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Originally Posted by My5ABaby
What is the difference?
Mazdatrix shows that the 87-88 N/A tranny's are identical.
87-88 RX7 Non-Turbo
1st 3.475
2nd 2.002
3rd 1.366
4th 1.000
5th 0.697
Mazdatrix shows that the 87-88 N/A tranny's are identical.
87-88 RX7 Non-Turbo
1st 3.475
2nd 2.002
3rd 1.366
4th 1.000
5th 0.697
Mazdatrix, occasionally misses things... for example (I don't know if they fixed it yet) but they had the clock surrounds wrong too The change for the clock warning panel was for 88 not 89 (they called it S4 vs S5)
Originally Posted by Icemark
No! the only differnece is 5th gear ratio between the 88 and 87 non turbo trannies
Originally Posted by Icemark
Go read the standard features and options thread found at the top of this section.
Mazdatrix, occasionally misses things... for example (I don't know if they fixed it yet) but they had the clock surrounds wrong too The change for the clock warning panel was for 88 not 89 (they called it S4 vs S5)
Mazdatrix, occasionally misses things... for example (I don't know if they fixed it yet) but they had the clock surrounds wrong too The change for the clock warning panel was for 88 not 89 (they called it S4 vs S5)
86-87 = .711
87.5-88 = .697 (except convertible)
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Originally Posted by arghx
Aluminum hood was optional on an 88 GTU. Mine doesn't have one, although I have one sitting in the garage to go on there (provided that I can find a transmission for it now).
Simple production illregularities.
Never was an option. Some randomly came with it, some didn't... but never an option.
Stop posting BS in this thread people!
Originally Posted by Icemark
You should stop posting, you are embarrassing yourself.
There is no such thing as two piston brakes in a Mazda.
Perhaps you do not understand how the brakes work.
There are two pistons PER SIDE OF THE CALIPER.
For those mathematically challenged that means 4 pistons per front wheel. Hence the term "Four Piston Brakes"
There is no such thing as two piston brakes in a Mazda.
Perhaps you do not understand how the brakes work.
There are two pistons PER SIDE OF THE CALIPER.
For those mathematically challenged that means 4 pistons per front wheel. Hence the term "Four Piston Brakes"