Well, I am considering going with a Greddy Emanage,has anyone ever run one of these units or know anyone who has. Tell me your experiences, good or bad, how well it works, what all it controls.

If I get it I would probably want the programmer so I can utilize more of the unit.


Basically, will this be a cost effective quality computer that can control fuel and eventually ignition, and additional injectors etc. Or should I just find a SAFC II

 

The E-manage isn't too good compared to some of your other options. A buddy of mine had one on his prelude, they never even got it fully tuned before they gave up and decided to go AEM EMS. The big problem comes in the fact that it can't handle extrememly large injectors. If I remember correctly it couldn't handle his four 550s so it could hardly handle stock TII. It also just had a lot of glitchs and was causing terrible boost spiking. Had something to do with having to reach full boost before it started reading everything right. So you'd have to make a full throttle run to calibrate it, and it'd spike terribly everytime. He ended up popping the motor trying to get it going, then threw the E-manage away and ordered the EMS.

 

That is not good, since I want ti to control way bigger injectors than that. Even with the programmer did he have these issues?I will not risk my new motor on a shitty tune.

 

keep em coming, this is exactly the kind of suff I want hear

 

I was looking into this as well for my car. But after all the software and accessories you have to buy you are almost at a stand-alone price. So if you are going to spend that much money you might as well step up to a Microtech (or other system). Unless you rilly want to use the stock wiring harness.

- Dana

 

dont know of preludes and emanage...
but there is a bunch of FD's running Emanage.

and for injector size ..

(from the faq on the yahoo group)
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The E-manage really works well with larger injectors, and larger
injectors are highly recommended. Greddy advertises that you can
increase injector size 150% - this is not really a limitation of the E-
manage, but of the engine itself. Larger injectors will squirt more
fuel at their smallest pulsewidth, and too large injectors will cause
idling and running problems. But, additional injectors can be added as
well to supplement the stock injectors.
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The software you download ... !
The cable you buy from Taiwan (better then the original one)...
The Extra harnesses etc. are standard items and can be bought REALY cheep...

so.. the price is more of a s-afcII but its more comparable to a standalone in what it can do.

Join:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emanage
to learn more about it ....

/bo, Just got his deliverd and installing it soon

 

Not to change the subject... But if I wanna upgrade my CPU on a car and maybe throw some 720cc injectors in it... Would it be plausible to just get an safc and use that? Or should i get a whole new ecu instead?

 

to stay on topic ...

I will use emange to run 720's in the sec.
emanage can be setup to acount for many more variables then the safc, and if you need in the future controll the ignition etc.
it also have a much larger map for adding fuel.

/gugge

 

Whoah, a little misinformation here.

First as posted the e-mange can control injectors that are 150 percent the stock size. A pair of 720's would would be easily controllable. In fact you just type in the stock size, and the new injector size and the e-manage compensates for you.

By itself the e-manage is worthless. When you buy the support tool (cd) it unlocks it's true power. All maps are 16 x 16. I would reccommend going with the:

e-manage, support tool, igntion and injector harness, greddy pressure sensor and pressure sensor harness. You can get this in a package deal for 575. It's a halfway step between a safc and a standalone like the e6k or lt8.

With the optional fuel injector harness you can directly control the duty cycle of the injectors. It's not simply a afm signal manipulation as the safc is. You can add fuel using the injector harness on a 16 x 16 graph. With the optonal pressure sensor the axis become rpm and MAP. This is a key point. Fueling is down based on load, not TPS when you're doing this.

When the afm has maxed out, you simply start adding in fuel at that boost amount.

The ignition harness does work. It's also configurable on a 16 x 16 scale (as all are) on a map vs rpm scale. Dale did a thread on his review of the e-manage on teamfc3s. I reccomend searcing for it and checking it out. I'd also reccomned going to the yahoo emanage group and looking around through the e-manage and support tool manual.

The e-manage is still a piggyback, which while has some negatives (AFM must stay), this also means that you're not coming up with a ignition and fuel map from scratch. The stock ecu can control things until it's out of it's reach, and then the e-manage comes into play.

 

read the faq. before you buy the addons ...

and some special info for the low budget people like me ...

"a mazda reverse harness for a car stereo
plugs into the second plug. metra's part number is 71-7901, these
sell for 15-18 bucks. between the 2 plugs in the package theres
enough to fully pin the harness u need, toss the other one. Im gonna
pick up another so i can avoid buying the injector harness too."

form a old email in the mail list ... search for it in the yahoo group for full info

/bo

 

thanks so much guys. I will start reading. Great responses.

 

FC ! ... grr .. i sometims post FD instead of FC ...

/bo, i have no minority complx against fd's .. i hope !

 

more boost and split trail timing issues would keep me from buying that "almost there" computer. Microtechs are going for $800 now, so i would save your pennies and spring for that instead. Why play with childrens toys when you can have fun like an adult.

 

If you need to keep the stock ecu for emissions (read: those who live in the peoples republic of california)

Why spend 800 on a simple microtech when for a little more you can grab a wolf 4.0 or e11? It comes down to what you need and/or want from the car. I think a standalone EMS is overkill for many set ups.

Would a lt8/e6k control the engine better? Abosultely, even on a stock car.
Is it neccesary? In many cases, no.

 

I agree with gsracer, the emanage might not be a "true stand alone" unit...but that isn't the point of it. It's for those who don't want to go full stand alone, but don't want to settle for messing with just a few points on the curves (by the way how much CAN you modify the ignition and fuel curves with the emanage? I'm still not quite sure...please explain indepth if possible). I'm thinking of just going with the emanage as opposed to going with the microtech that I HAD planned on using.

 

thanks, keep em coming. I think I am going to buy it, I am getting a good deal, and I will go with the extra software to make it run better. Does anyone have any tips on getting the cables and extras for good prices?

 

emanage is a piggyback.

http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/index.html
- E-manage, ONLY $295* with Bonus English CD v1.11
http://chips.car-hacker.com/
USD$55.shipping included PC cable ...

if you read up and are a little inovative this is all you need ...

350$ is a long way from 800$.....

/bo, bought his stuff from them.

 

Yes, buy it buy it buy it

David

 

it also has the ablity to control addional injectors and datalog.