christi

Cleaned out the GXL's engine bay. Took almost everything off. All needs to be done is the Exhaust, dropping the tranny and then lifting her out. Hopefully that'll be brought out next weekend. As well as tearing her down.

Here are the pictures:

Before we started, this is what she had looked like from Nov when FBDrifter and I took a lot of things off of her; the guy, jon, is my buddy who was helping me yesterday:



Dirty, she's so dirty !




Me, taken things off:






While taking off the EGR on top of the engine, we noticed some carbon on it, as well as inside the hole I'm thinking this is why she siezed up. I can't imagine what the inside looks like when we tear her apart:

christi

Another angle:



And the one on underside of the EGR, Look at all that carbon! :



I need to get a new picture of this, or a less-blurry one, but after taken off the heat shield, and exhaust on the left side of the motor, in the hole we found this... and it looks SO much like a top seal from the rotor:



At the end of the day, finished doing what we had to do to get her ready to be pulled, here's what she looks like:







I accomplished alot yesterday and last night. It was fun, and I can not wait until we get the motor out. All left is what ya see here.


Ha, then a video that my buddy took of while taken pictures while we were working on the car......

http://zukin.f0e.net/GXL/GXL%20012.avi

Right click, save as please.

hopefully next weekend I'll have more updates of what has been going on. Hopefully we'll get her torn down and get ready for that rebuild!

However, I do wonder if the rotors and housing are in still good shape, and if we just clean up the carbon inside, do you think she'll run? I know we need new seals, etc, that's not a problem..

christi

Oh ya, also.... this picture:



Where that nut is suppose to go, when we got all the lines and hoses out of there, saw pressure building up after we took off the nut...... is that SUPPOSE to happen?

Also, on the front of the engine, there was old oil all down the side. Does that mean it was leaking oil before the engine blew? It was old oil too. We're thinking we also blew a oil seal, or something of the sort.

WonkoTheSane

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I don't know if you already took it off, but it's easier to get the tranny off the car once it's pulled.. you can pull the engine and tranny right out the car pretty easily that's what I did, at least... looks liek you're in for some fun, welcome to the engine-rebuild club

n4ji

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Wow... a lot of females I know would never even look inside an engine bay... nonetheless step inside one!

Props to you for doing it yourself.

christi

Yeah. I atleast try too. Still learning. I'll be getting a better picture of the metal piece I got out of the exhaust ports tomorrow and post them up.

RotaryResurrection

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Why on earth are you doing all the back breaking work of stripping the engine down to teh block IN the car? You do know that you can remove the engine, just as it sits with EVERY manifold and accessory attatched, right? I mean, do what you want, I just hate to see effort wasted. The work of stripping accessories is MUCH easier on the stand or the floor, trust me.

J-Rat

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God.. How many times have I done that....

Aaron Cake

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LOL. Great picture of you in the engine bay!

Don't worry about the carbon in your EGR hole that much. They're all like that.

And as Kevin said, no reason to strip the engine in the car. At the most, the upper intake has to come off (and power steering and A/C compressor). But you can even avoid taking off the intake if you just pull the wiring harness with the engine...

TwEaK

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CHristi do you already have another motor?? im located in miami fl and i have a spare motor that will need a rebuild its an S4 TII motor if you want it i think all youll need is rotors and some minor things but i mean i got a bunch of parts i could take to you if you want..
TwEaK

BkFill

can i have stuff too but im a guy =X

Aaron Cake

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Sounds like a junk block to me. All you need is "rotors and some minor things"? TII rotors are pretty dear as far as price goes, and of course you have to completely disassemble the engine to replace.

Also, a TII engine isn't going to help when rebuilding an NA. The only direct swappable parts are the eccentric and rotor housings.

vrooom305

how many miles are on that GXL engine?

Aesop Rock

i just did that a few days ago, if i had small enough legs to fit in the engine bay life would have much easier...

RevinRx7

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ummmm...... There should be carbon in the EGR its the E.xhaust G.as R.ecirculation..........

RotaryWeaponSE7EN

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Ah yes, reminds me of the fun I'm having now.

TwEaK

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Well i mean cmon im being nice enough to offer anything that she needs if i got it ill give it to her no charge FREE i mean either that or i just trash em....
TwEaK

christi

Yeah, i see where you're coming from, but half that **** isn't going back on, besides what is needed.

christi

IT siezed up at 185k



Ok, Well that's new to me. I didn't think tehre should be THAT much carbon. Of course, 2 weeks before she siezed up, my mechanic said that he found carbon on the TB and *cleaned* it off.

Oh, and the exhaust / manifold. You could see where it was cleaned, and where it wasn't.

Heck, I could still be a noob, and not know what I'm talking about *shrugs* It's all a learning process, I suppose.



Tweak - miami is about 12 hours from pcola. I don't know how else you'll get that here, unless you ship it, and I quite frankly think that'll be fairly expensive to send a free engine to me, lol. But hey, Let me talk to you through PMs.

No, I don't have a spare engine lying around. Though, someone on the mRCCFL list is selling his car (rear-ended) and engine is still in good contact. If I can just get a "running" engine for the time bein' it'll be good.

This engine will be rebuilt with a SP or so. I still need to speak to Kevin when I begin a few things, as well as Aaron.

christi

Ok, the "carbon" clean thing that my mechanic supposely did never happened. The piles of carbon we had on that EGR was HUGE and in chunks. Even in the hole, and in the exhaust ports.

If it was remotely cleaned out, there wouldn't be as much as there was that we saw.....

so im thinking it's carbon lock.

Anyway more pictures to come about and let you know how it's going to go.

jacobcartmill

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are you sure its really locked up? dont all EGR's look like that?

and there will always be carbon on the exhaust ports of an engine...

christi

If all egr's look like that, then why would my exhaust ports be covered with carbon, when my mechanic told me he did a treatment or whatever to get the carbon out of the TB?

Yes, i'm sure it's locked up. we've tried to manually turn it by hand and no go. Trust me.... lol

RotaryResurrection

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Most EGR's have carbon built up...that one has not recently been cleaned, for at least 6 months of run time. That one doesnt look like it's been touched.

Now, the throttlebody has nothing to do with the egr valve...if he told you he cleaned the throttlebody, and it's clean, I dont see how you can fault him over an egr valve.

Your exhaust ports will have carbon on them, because, well, they're EXHAUST ports. Exhaust, by nature, expells unburned fuel and carbon. Bet your exhaust tips had carbon in them too...should he have cleaned those too?

christi

I guess I should be more specific, he said he cleaned the TB, as well as the Exhaust ports..... but obivously none of it looks clean, or respectfully cleaned as it should....

I might not know everything what I see / hear, but I am learning......... Sorry for making stupid statements, I guess I'm confused.

But I do know the car won't turn over, either way, it's stuck, bad.

scathcart

The burning of gasoline produces carbon as a deposit... of course there is going to be carbon in your exhaust ports. Same reason there is carbon deposited on your EGR. Same reason there is carbon in your tail pipes. The throttle body is no where near the exhaust ports, why would cleaning the TB clean out your engine? Does washing your windshield vacuum your carpet?

All EGR's look like that. The EGR valve did not kill your engine.