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08-27-07, 09:19 PM
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Well Guys I'm back in the Rotary game I just purchase a 1987 RX7 Turbo II with
a 60 Trim Turbo and full 3" Custom turboback exhaust,Tial 50MM BOV, I still need a
HKS FCD and some other things. I wanted to know How much boost to run on I know
fuel cut happens somewhere between 6-6.5. Should I run the Upgraded turbo on
stock boost and just work around it or put a FCD and turn it to 14PSi? Also Would a
Apexi S-AFC-II due the same as a FCD or will I need both??
MIKE
a 60 Trim Turbo and full 3" Custom turboback exhaust,Tial 50MM BOV, I still need a
HKS FCD and some other things. I wanted to know How much boost to run on I know
fuel cut happens somewhere between 6-6.5. Should I run the Upgraded turbo on
stock boost and just work around it or put a FCD and turn it to 14PSi? Also Would a
Apexi S-AFC-II due the same as a FCD or will I need both??
MIKE
08-27-07, 10:35 PM
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Before you up the boost, you need to upgrade you injectors if you haven't done so. I'm guessing you have a hybrid turbo, so you will probably be ok with some 720cc injectors. To really get it tuned, you will need an SAFC or an Rtec. If you get an safc, you will need to buy an fcd. If you get an rtec however, it has a built in fcd and has a few other advantages. By the way, what part of NM are you in?
08-28-07, 12:17 AM
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Before you up the boost, you need to upgrade you injectors if you haven't done so. I'm guessing you have a hybrid turbo, so you will probably be ok with some 720cc injectors. To really get it tuned, you will need an SAFC or an Rtec. If you get an safc, you will need to buy an fcd. If you get an rtec however, it has a built in fcd and has a few other advantages. By the way, what part of NM are you in?
I'm in Roswell and Not to many Rx7's here I had a 86 N/A but traded
for a 92 Galant VR4 894/1000. Then sold that to get a Buick Grand National
then blow the engine in that and it's on the side line.Now I have the RX7 Turbo II
and my Daily Driver 1991 Eclipse GSX with fully Built Forged Motor with JDM 16G.
08-28-07, 12:29 AM
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Damn i'm Getting the RTek I just read up on it and it's like my Stage 3 DSMchip
I going to get the Version 2.0 with the 720cc sec. That's what I will do it says
I can run the 720cc's or larger but is I run like 750cc's I will need a AFC to tune it good.
I get to Dyno now Yes!
I going to get the Version 2.0 with the 720cc sec. That's what I will do it says
I can run the 720cc's or larger but is I run like 750cc's I will need a AFC to tune it good.
I get to Dyno now Yes!
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Will 750cc's be too big? Also what the hell is a RTec who makes it?
I'm in Roswell and Not to many Rx7's here I had a 86 N/A but traded
for a 92 Galant VR4 894/1000. Then sold that to get a Buick Grand National
then blow the engine in that and it's on the side line.Now I have the RX7 Turbo II
and my Daily Driver 1991 Eclipse GSX with fully Built Forged Motor with JDM 16G.
I'm in Roswell and Not to many Rx7's here I had a 86 N/A but traded
for a 92 Galant VR4 894/1000. Then sold that to get a Buick Grand National
then blow the engine in that and it's on the side line.Now I have the RX7 Turbo II
and my Daily Driver 1991 Eclipse GSX with fully Built Forged Motor with JDM 16G.
https://www.rx7club.com/rtek-forum-168/
Read up, you don't want to blow your motor.
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08-28-07, 02:07 PM
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T04B that comes on the car. As for asking for trouble I love it Bring it on. J/K
I'm Going to RTEK version 1.7 550cc's/720cc's chip and I have to get a AFPR and
Dyno it to get the Afr's right I'll tune for 11.6-11.8 on The S-AFCII?
08-28-07, 03:18 PM
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Dyno for $45 for a day tune I know the guys really good. We recently dyno'd a 05
SRT with BPU mods and got it tuned with a S-AFCII and made 280FWHP & 360Tq.
on 20PSI. So I guess I'll try it out with the AFC first and if it don't work out then
Standalone for me I guess.
08-28-07, 09:05 PM
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nice
instead of fooling with SAFC and Rtek etc here's another vote for standalone ECU
I have a Microtech LTx8 in mine. I'd love a Haltech E8.
They're not that expensive, you can pick up 2nd hand LT8's for around $500AUD
instead of fooling with SAFC and Rtek etc here's another vote for standalone ECU
I have a Microtech LTx8 in mine. I'd love a Haltech E8.
They're not that expensive, you can pick up 2nd hand LT8's for around $500AUD
08-28-07, 09:58 PM
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Hey I was reading in my D-sport magazine about the new Haltech 11V but it was for the S5 FC3S. Yeah I just picked up car tonight and removed the air intake to turbo compressor and WOW it's big way bigger then stock I will take pic of. I need to get
it rewired because there's alot of wires crossed and exposed. Cranks but does not
start. And for the Honda CRV Rims there just for now I in the process of purchasing
3 Gen FD Rims. Thanks TED I did My research But Oh Well!
it rewired because there's alot of wires crossed and exposed. Cranks but does not
start. And for the Honda CRV Rims there just for now I in the process of purchasing
3 Gen FD Rims. Thanks TED I did My research But Oh Well!
08-28-07, 11:07 PM
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the Haltech E11v2 is a great ECU, but the E8 will do *EVERYTHING* the S4 or S5 requires (including electronic OMP on S5).
The E8 also supports closed loop boost control etc, great unit.
Microtech LT8 will also do everything you *require* but nothing more..
Haltech advertise plug n play units for S5 (plug the ecu straight into stock loom)
They actually *DO* make PNP ecu's for the S4 as well, they just don't advertise it.
If you're interested but have trouble tracking one down I can hook you up with a few contacts that will get it sorted for you.
Most Haltech distributors will tell you the S4 pnp does not exist. This isn't true, it just isn't in mass production.
Basically, if you're on a tight budget and have an experienced tuner near you, a Microtech would work great.
If you've got the extra cash, or you want to do more of the tuning yourself, Haltech is a wonderful compromise between economy and features.
I believe the Haltech E8 is no longer in production, same with the LT8.. so you'd need to get it second hand.
The Haltech E11v2 is the replacement for E8, and the Microtech LT10 supersedes the LT8.
Haltech ECU's can also run all your emissions equipment, so if you felt like making the car completely legal you can do it (depending on state regulations obviously)
The E8 also supports closed loop boost control etc, great unit.
Microtech LT8 will also do everything you *require* but nothing more..
Haltech advertise plug n play units for S5 (plug the ecu straight into stock loom)
They actually *DO* make PNP ecu's for the S4 as well, they just don't advertise it.
If you're interested but have trouble tracking one down I can hook you up with a few contacts that will get it sorted for you.
Most Haltech distributors will tell you the S4 pnp does not exist. This isn't true, it just isn't in mass production.
Basically, if you're on a tight budget and have an experienced tuner near you, a Microtech would work great.
If you've got the extra cash, or you want to do more of the tuning yourself, Haltech is a wonderful compromise between economy and features.
I believe the Haltech E8 is no longer in production, same with the LT8.. so you'd need to get it second hand.
The Haltech E11v2 is the replacement for E8, and the Microtech LT10 supersedes the LT8.
Haltech ECU's can also run all your emissions equipment, so if you felt like making the car completely legal you can do it (depending on state regulations obviously)
08-28-07, 11:35 PM
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Im *PRETTY* sure the E11V2 isnt the replacement for the E8.. I could be wrong but im pretty positive about that.. The E11V2 is like the godfather of th haltech family.. has all the little bells and whistles and can control the 20b where the E8 cannot. I personally have a E6X and im perfectly happy with it.
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yeah, the E8 and E11 were out at the same time, same as the Lt8 and LT10.
I'm not sure of the reasons but I believe both manufacturers have stopped making the more basic model and superseded it support wise with the model up.
The E8 and E11 are completely different units with huge variances in application, but as I said, it looks like the E11 is set to replace the E8
The LT8 has *definately* been superseded by the LT10, the E8 issue is merely a rumour. It is still advertised for sale, so for now at least you can still buy one new.
An E11 would be close to overkill on an FC imo. You could end up using all it's features on an extensively modified car, but the E8 will do everything a street FC needs and more, plus a bit more.
I'm not sure of the reasons but I believe both manufacturers have stopped making the more basic model and superseded it support wise with the model up.
The E8 and E11 are completely different units with huge variances in application, but as I said, it looks like the E11 is set to replace the E8
The LT8 has *definately* been superseded by the LT10, the E8 issue is merely a rumour. It is still advertised for sale, so for now at least you can still buy one new.
An E11 would be close to overkill on an FC imo. You could end up using all it's features on an extensively modified car, but the E8 will do everything a street FC needs and more, plus a bit more.
08-29-07, 01:05 AM
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Please people...if you don't know what you're talking about, stop posting BAD information!
E11V1 was the first of a new generation of ECU's by Haltech that went away from their very popular E6* series.
Due to a change of management at Haltech, the E11V1 got caught in a very bad transition time for Haltech.
It was quickly replaced by the E11V2.
The E11 series preceded the E8 ECU.
The E8 came out last...
The E8 is basically a scaled down E11V2.
If you pop open an E11V2 and an E8, they are very similar.
Haltech configured the E8 with less outputs than the E11V2.
The E8 is targeted toward 4-cylinder and 2-rotor applications - i.e. 4 discrete fuel channels.
The E11V2 handles almost everything else.
The E8 is not a replacement for the E11V2.
-Ted
E11V1 was the first of a new generation of ECU's by Haltech that went away from their very popular E6* series.
Due to a change of management at Haltech, the E11V1 got caught in a very bad transition time for Haltech.
It was quickly replaced by the E11V2.
The E11 series preceded the E8 ECU.
The E8 came out last...
The E8 is basically a scaled down E11V2.
If you pop open an E11V2 and an E8, they are very similar.
Haltech configured the E8 with less outputs than the E11V2.
The E8 is targeted toward 4-cylinder and 2-rotor applications - i.e. 4 discrete fuel channels.
The E11V2 handles almost everything else.
The E8 is not a replacement for the E11V2.
-Ted
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Please people...if you don't know what you're talking about, stop posting BAD information!
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The E8 is basically a scaled down E11V2.
If you pop open an E11V2 and an E8, they are very similar.
Haltech configured the E8 with less outputs than the E11V2.
..
The E8 is targeted toward 4-cylinder and 2-rotor applications - i.e. 4 discrete fuel channels.
The E11V2 handles almost everything else.
The E8 is not a replacement for the E11V2.
-Ted
..
The E8 is basically a scaled down E11V2.
If you pop open an E11V2 and an E8, they are very similar.
Haltech configured the E8 with less outputs than the E11V2.
..
The E8 is targeted toward 4-cylinder and 2-rotor applications - i.e. 4 discrete fuel channels.
The E11V2 handles almost everything else.
The E8 is not a replacement for the E11V2.
-Ted
Hi Ted
If you read my posts, this is what I was talking about, and nothing you've written contradicts anything i've said. I'm the only person who has replied constructively since your last post, so I can only assume your "BAD information" comment was directed at me. If so, i suggest it's BAD interpretation on your behalf, and a fairly silly comment to make when your only contradiction is regarding whether 1 model is replacing another or not.
My reply got chewed up so i'm making this entry simple: Recently we tried to purchase a *new* E8, and despite promises from every retailer we were unable to get one from anywhere in the country.
Our local informed us they were no longer stocking the E8 as the market was too small compared to the E11.
I never said the E8 replaces the E11, and I *did* say that the E8 being discontinued is rumour not fact. It's still listed in catalogs and on the Haltech site, and I know for a fact they still support it.
Apologies if I confused anyone, I stand by everything else i've said as fact and in retrospect probably shouldn't have perpetuated the rumour of E8 being discontinued.
Peace out, I know better than to try and help in the future
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If you read my posts, this is what I was talking about, and nothing you've written contradicts anything i've said. I'm the only person who has replied constructively since your last post, so I can only assume your "BAD information" comment was directed at me. If so, i suggest it's BAD interpretation on your behalf, and a fairly silly comment to make when your only contradiction is regarding whether 1 model is replacing another or not.
This is just a short list of the wrong things you said in this thread:
The Haltech E11v2 is the replacement for E8
I've already stated the chronology of how the ECU's were released.
yeah, the E8 and E11 were out at the same time
So, no, they were not out "at the same time".
I'm not sure of the reasons but I believe both manufacturers have stopped making the more basic model and superseded it support wise with the model up.
The E6X is still the entry-level fuel + ignition ECU.
The E8 and E11 are completely different units with huge variances in application, but as I said, it looks like the E11 is set to replace the E8
Again, I mentioned this in my reply.
The boards almost look totally identical.
"Variances in application"?
Not really...it's just less outputs.
Sure, it limits certain applications, but as long as it can handle the inputs and outputs, you can use either.
You know...you sound like a closed-minded Microtech proponent who has no clue about Haltechs.
You really should not be talking about Haltechs if you don't know what you're talking about.
-Ted
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