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Goopy street motor build and R&D

Old Aug 4, 2011 | 04:39 PM
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Wow! Quite the setup, one day I might get ambitious in the brake dept, gotta get these fd calipers on and replace thee pos's and rotors first though. What's the difference between n/a and t2 prop valves? I converted my abs car to non-abs by bending cutting and re-flaring the stock hard lines and getting a new non-abs master cylinder, but I'm still using the stock t2 prop valve.
The difference between valves like u said is abs and non not sure theres a difference but...
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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lol.

Ok, back on topic. Care to go into more detail about your brake setup? looks like you have braided line coming out of the proportioning valve...
Also, what is that thick braided line that goes toward the firewall? lazily routed oil cooler line? filter relocation?
Finally, I assume you plan to doe something about those 90* couplers in your pre IC charge piping before you start tuning this beast....
the large lines coming up the firewall arent lazily routed, they are acuallty ran rather nicely, using modified original fuel line holding brackets, theyre just rather large...
I have 2 -8 feed lines one to each rail w/ earls inline fiters, a -6 return line, and my -3 rear brake line are all neatly secured and routed to the rear of the vehicle.
I also spent alot of time and money on my fuel system so I wouldnt have to **** with it later on...
not the best px but shos the deal
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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you should have left the paint that was on the car, sanding it and leaving it like that is a bad idea if you want to paint the car later down the road. Dont wax it- it wont help. Dont sand it more you dont want to end up through the primer into the metal or raw urethane bumper. Just clean it with degreaser now and then.
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JWteknix
the large lines coming up the firewall arent lazily routed, they are acuallty ran rather nicely, using modified original fuel line holding brackets, theyre just rather large...
I have 2 -8 feed lines one to each rail w/ earls inline fiters, a -6 return line, and my -3 rear brake line are all neatly secured and routed to the rear of the vehicle.
I also spent alot of time and money on my fuel system so I wouldnt have to **** with it later on...
not the best px but shos the deal
Those pictures clear things up alot!
I guess my original post was unclear, I was actually referring to that large line that looks like it comes out of oil cap (I was viewing on my phone before)


Rob XX 7: Interesting that wax would not help protect the paint...care to elaborate?
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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The line coming out of the oil fill top is crankcase vent it runs to my catch can a super fancy vitamin water bottle lol

Thanx rob I'll just finish it And leave it for now
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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 07:53 AM
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Rob XX 7: Interesting that wax would not help protect the paint...care to elaborate?
because he sanded it, it wont all come out of the sanding scratches and will haze, and it will make things much worse when he goes to actually paint it to get the wax out of there.
He is better off to just use degreaser on it, this way it wont be a contaminant
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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 07:58 AM
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because he sanded it, it wont all come out of the sanding scratches and will haze, and it will make things much worse when he goes to actually paint it to get the wax out of there.
He is better off to just use degreaser on it, this way it wont be a contaminant
its ok rob once I get 10k the car will be dropped at ur door for the next year lol
at least itll be drivible
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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob XX 7
because he sanded it, it wont all come out of the sanding scratches and will haze, and it will make things much worse when he goes to actually paint it to get the wax out of there.
He is better off to just use degreaser on it, this way it wont be a contaminant
Ahhh...... I see. Thanks for the info.
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 06:15 AM
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Well with new exhaust and intake on the car it's finally loud.. Gotta pay to play right lol

I got like 750 miles on the motor right now and hopefully kahran comes down from Connecticut today and is gonna street tune tubby and my car.. I'm just praying all goes well It should be a nice day
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 09:42 AM
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kahren came down from conneticut the other day and he was quite surprised that my car actually ran on the maps in the car he spent like 2hrs remaking and adding cells to my timing map before we even turned the car on..

we got on the highway we expeirienced a few minor problems the fan wasnt turning on cuasing very hott temps and extended cool downs, i have since fixed the fan and added the under shroud temps are now much better .. the car got soo hot it melted My 2stroke resevoir line.. I have since installed a new line and insulated it better, if this one melts ill replace the line with a different matierial..

also cars oil catch can was full and when hitting 15lbs of pressure it blew oil every where eventually ill replace my vitamin water bottle with a real catch can..

for now the cars not tunned passed 5500 even still this thing is soo sick i cant imagine how fast its gonna be with another 3k rpm

the thing basicaly drives like a new car ive never been soo happy with this thing

i also have a short or draw some where ill sort this over the winter for now im enjoying my car for the first time in really like 6 yrs its unreal
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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750 break in miles and the catch can was full?
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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it sits next to the head light with no top on it... it rained for the last week so it was a bottle full of **** shake... probly have 1k on it now
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 12:00 PM
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Why bother with a catch can? Are you worried about the environment?
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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y wouldnt i have it in a catch can?
im not down for shooting oil all over my nice ****...
its also a safty hazard when oil is dripped on the road, the track, or even your tires ur fucked..
not sre how many tracks or places in MD let you pass tech shooting oil everywhere out of the pvc system..
that was a stupid comment..
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Why would it have a catch can? The engine doesn't "shoot oil". It's not a squirt gun. If you have that much blow by then your engine is leaking compression. What are the "tech" rules? Do the rules state a container size? A filter on the filler neck nipple works just fine if a catch can isn't specified.

Since this is the "Goopy street build"...how many bored out piston bottom ends use the stock rings and springs? If the engine doesn't lose compression from a lack of apex seal spring, it will when what little chrome liner is left starts to peel. The real question (and only reason this thread has so many views) is how long the engine lasts before it's too weak to start.
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 07:10 PM
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Ran into some ignition breakup tonight goin into boost at 6k not sre if its from erratic battery voltage im expieriencing or what....
gotta lot of little issues going on with the car im gonna have to fix.
Im not sre if i should jst putt around with it or just rip it apart.
tomorrorw im gonna do some diag see if it gets me somewhere....
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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JWteknix
y wouldnt i have it in a catch can?
im not down for shooting oil all over my nice ****...
its also a safty hazard when oil is dripped on the road, the track, or even your tires ur fucked..
not sre how many tracks or places in MD let you pass tech shooting oil everywhere out of the pvc system..
that was a stupid comment..
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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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took the car for a ride today and am now expieriencing fuel pressure issues with constant voltage to the pump...
not sure if the pump or the regulators going..
put the car back in the garage..im gonna pull it apart. the dash everything coming out and being double im gonna rewire everything over the next few weeks see if i can fix it
I dont wana blow my motor yet
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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This morning I went full interior to an hour and a half later where my interior is now stripped, it just started pouring out. so, I stopped this is how it looks now
Im going to be picking up a fuse block and maybe a few connector cuz the way I wired everything over the years i had to snip some wires i previously ran to get the dash out
I also pulled my whole heater core and blower motor assembly cuz no of it works any way
Im gonna be rewiring my whole charging system, and what ever else I feel needs attention
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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wat u using for ignition?
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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I feel your pain, I had to cut a few wires when I swapped out my interior, now I have separate fuse blocks for constant 12v, switch 12v, and illum. Makes wiring in new things MUCH easier/cleaner.
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 04:26 PM
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hey guys i started a new job a month ago. I have been doing some wiring when I get a chance. Im buying a front carpet for it today, gonna throw it in then the dash and everything can be buttoned up i dont see me driving it for another month or soo.. its beat but i u saw the wiring job these guys did ud throw up..
I am in need of a ignition switch so i can swap the harnesses on mine theyre all hacked up.
If u have a ignition switch for an s4 let me kno
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Originally Posted by PvillKnight7
Why would it have a catch can? The engine doesn't "shoot oil". It's not a squirt gun. If you have that much blow by then your engine is leaking compression. What are the "tech" rules? Do the rules state a container size? A filter on the filler neck nipple works just fine if a catch can isn't specified.

Since this is the "Goopy street build"...how many bored out piston bottom ends use the stock rings and springs? If the engine doesn't lose compression from a lack of apex seal spring, it will when what little chrome liner is left starts to peel. The real question (and only reason this thread has so many views) is how long the engine lasts before it's too weak to start.
irregardless, most tracks require some sort of engine ventilation system other than a line directed at the ground. oil will collect under the car and drip off eventually, you may be surprised how much blowby some turbos can generate in moderately abused engines. oil also gets into rubber components and destroys things under your car such as transmission mounts, exhaust hangers and suspension components.

on the flipside, if your car doesn't have blowby issues now, it just might sooner by using a simplified vent system due to all the dirt being sucked into the motor on decel. i shake my head when i see lines hanging open or nothing at all with a greaseball of a motor, due to all the blowby collecting dirt casting the engine in it's own anti-rust coating. is it really worth saving $30 on?

if the last comment was aimed at resurfaced housings, well, many have had good luck already with it. better luck in fact than using mediocre housings that will already give blowby and poorer compression results. i now do it on ALL my rebuilt engines, some 150K+ mile housings that were total garbage before i would rate as usable again. housings with under 100k generally looked like NEW again. i simply recommend premixing when using older housings and as a pre-requisite no 3 piece seals even if there happen to be any old sets floating around out there still.

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