Ryde _Or_Die

http://www.streetrays.com/catalog/pr...fce645ee7b19a4

Its the M-300 wb that uses the bosch sensor. Is it accurate and is it the best value? Or is there another one I should look into? Thanks alot. Oh and do you feel its safe for me to use to tune just an s-afc at least?

calio64

i have 1 and i love it, it reads the air fuel like 10 times a second

AFSOC_Commando

I prefer the LM-1 here

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/

It also has software and does 44 minutes of logging.... You can different accs. to go with it.

I have mine set up hard mount in the REX and also can pull it to use on my other cars and my Harley

Only drawback is it is big...... But to use just for tuning it works great, I am getting ready to get their Analog sweep guage to tie into mine to give me wideband in the front and leave the meter mounted behind the passenger seat....

There are a few threads here about it with people whom have compared it with the dyno wideband and it does real well...

Unless your going standalone (this will work with standalone also) I recommend this one for the features

gsracer

Within the same price range is the innovate lm1. The only advatage the lm1 has over the plx wideband is that it comes standard with datalogging. More advanced datalogging capabilities are available, but cost an extra 90 dollars I believe.

The plx has a MUCH better display IMO. Both have 1volt and 5volt output wires for external datalogging by a stand alone/pocket logger set up.

It will do the job just fine.

KNONFS

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Being using for over three months without a problem, I turned down the innovate lm1 due to its size; beside I don't need the datalog option, E6K takes care of that.

BTW - I tuned for emissions with it, and was able to pass them

RETed

Hmmm...10Hz isn't that fast a rate...


-Ted

elfking

I am also wondering about different widebands, to see if one is useable to tune my SAFC II without spending $1000 on it.

FD3S_wanted

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Does it really need to be faster than that ?

Ryde _Or_Die

So I take it they don't make a white face gauge to go with any wideband? I really want the datalogging and would like to have a display fixed somewhere, but I think I'll go with the LM-1 just for its abilities for the price. Can someone give me other options just to compare though?


Oh and someone said "it compared really well to a dyno." I thought this would be better since your actually in driving conditions? Also, does this go in your DP like the stock O2 sensor? I don't want one that clips to your muffler or anything.

gsracer

You can buy a 52mm guage from innovative.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...me.php?cat=250

It ties into the lm1, but you will need the analog output cable for it as well. The best location for the sensor is as far down the exhuast stream as you can manage. If you are running a cat still, then it will need to be before the cat. If you are catless, anywhere in the midpipe will be good. The sensor ideally should be mounted between a 10 and 2 o'clock position.

Ryde _Or_Die

Well I have no cats, but I have to ask; why is it better to be farther down the exhaust? I figured the closer the better.


Oh and the 52mm gauge, does it come in white too?

gsracer

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=331715

I have no idea if the guage comes in white, I've heard they have great customer service so just shoot them an email.

hondahater

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man I would love a wide band and really for the price I have to pay here for someone to tune the car it is almost worth it to spend the 300 and some on that wide band.

deltr0n`

how does $279 sound? and that INCLUDES the Bosch sensor!

click me!

gsracer

Slick.

Ryde _Or_Die

So with this and a laptop I can tune everything myself right?

deltr0n`

NEGS! you cant actually TUNE your car with a wideband. all a wideband does is give you the VERY FINE detail of how the motor is running (ie. AFR, EGT, BOOST, LAMBDA) you need a piggyback(SAFC) or standalone(HALTEC) to actually change any of it so it runs right.

Ryde _Or_Die

Lol, I know that man. I am just asking if this is a good unit for me to use to tune. Not to use it to actually tune my car.

deltr0n`

thats ALL you need to tune your car dude, its got a lot of monitoring... it COMES wih the sensor! that alone cost almost $200...definitely a worth whole investment! I myself WILL be picking up one within the month.

I also showed it to my mechanic in disbelieve but he was amazed as well, he said it definitely was an awesome deal.

Ryde _Or_Die

So to replace that sensor it costs $200? How often does it have to be replaced and how do you know when it needs to be? So its not a good idea to leave the sensor in your exhaust always? This isn't the same one?

http://www.cardomain.com/item/AEM302001?ref=yhps

MiDNiGhT_TeRroR

dont think so. next

hondahater

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damn! As soon as my clients pay me I'm going to get one! Very cool! So you would just hook that up to a laptop in the car??? Thanks.

Ryde _Or_Die

Thats my plan. With that I should be able to do some very nice tuning I think. The hell with paying people to tune my car. Only thing is timing, not too sure about that so I'll just leave it stock.

hondahater

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yeah i've never messed with timing and don't plan to. I was wondering if I could use my stock egt probe location on the down pipe? I heard someone say it should be further away but would that really matter??? I'm guessing because it is cooler down there thus making the wide band probe last longer? Anyone with some insite?

Ryde _Or_Die

You mean stock O2 sensor location? I believe its the same but it comes with its own bung to be welded in. I've been wondering why they want it farther down the exhaust myself and I guess it has to be a heat issue. Nothing else makes sense. I thought they'd want it as close to the turbo as possible myself though for the most accurate reading but I guess as long as you have no leaks it shouldn't change farther down and only be cooler.