GODSPEED (real/fake??)
and now back to the original question for those mature enough to not do forum trolling... hope i used the right forum term since im a noob
No, thats a pretty week analogy. And i also like the fact that he points out a chapter in some manual to give himself credibility. Even though you may know a thing or two out of a manual, your analogy still sucks. I'm not here to school anyone on "watches" but since the genius brought it up then let me make a counter analogy. Fashion, especially accessories (watches) has always been copied. Fact is Rolex/Chanel makes ceramic watches that run $20,000 because of name where MORE AFFORDABLE companies like Fossil which is also a trusted watch company actually produces COPIES for $98-$120.
My point is, one may not be able to afford or justify spending on a Greddy (Rolex/Channel) but like thousands on this forum, may want a tried and trusted unit like Godspeed (Fossil).
I didnt dispute that im a "noob" when it comes to this product or else i wouldn't be on this forum like million others asking these kind of questions but at least im not an idiot making comparisons of things they know nothing about. Now im not sure if its made in china or not but at least its a brand with an address in THE USA and a contact number for information or warranty purposes ect. I'm very happy for you that you know how to pick up a book and read a chapter or two and convey your knowledge in such a helpful manner to someone asking a simple question. And obviously the others that agree with him are just as intelligent cause the FC rx7s wernt styled after a Porsche 944. Guess you would all leave a Porsche dealership happy with a re bagged rx7.
My point is, one may not be able to afford or justify spending on a Greddy (Rolex/Channel) but like thousands on this forum, may want a tried and trusted unit like Godspeed (Fossil).
I didnt dispute that im a "noob" when it comes to this product or else i wouldn't be on this forum like million others asking these kind of questions but at least im not an idiot making comparisons of things they know nothing about. Now im not sure if its made in china or not but at least its a brand with an address in THE USA and a contact number for information or warranty purposes ect. I'm very happy for you that you know how to pick up a book and read a chapter or two and convey your knowledge in such a helpful manner to someone asking a simple question. And obviously the others that agree with him are just as intelligent cause the FC rx7s wernt styled after a Porsche 944. Guess you would all leave a Porsche dealership happy with a re bagged rx7.
So what I mean is there is not a such thing as a real or fake godspeed they are all the same.
Rotorhead
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 9,136
Likes: 39
From: Charlottesville, Virginia, USA
I pointed out the manual because we get lot of people like you on this forum who think that they have some type of innate ability to work on their car with no training and no manual, and they end up installing the wrong type of thermostat, installing the correct thermostat incorrectly, or over-torqueing the thermostat cover, all of which can cause a lot of damage to the car. For some reason the younger generation is under the misconception that there should be some type of embarrassment if they are not born knowing everything there is a about sports cars. I am simply trying to point you in the right direction so you don't end up ruining your car. Also, I was assuming that you had the car torn apart, so if you still have good coolant in there you may was well keep it until it is time to change it, as coolant is getting pretty expensive nowadays.
seriously you think because they have a CA address they are made here?
come on now
they dont have to pay for the R&D, and they make them in china- this is how you can buy the whole kit for $300-$400
its not a big deal im sure it will do fine for your application
come on now
they dont have to pay for the R&D, and they make them in china- this is how you can buy the whole kit for $300-$400
its not a big deal im sure it will do fine for your application
buddy to tell you the truth, i don't care where they are build. they have a USA address, it doesn't cost 1000$ to build an intercooler. its max 300$ and its counting the steel, aluminium or what ever you use and the rad part. then you just have to weld it. lucky me i can go to my union tranning center and get her done there.
so now if your a company who build a lots of them its gonna cost you way less for material. so more you sell, more profit you make.
in then end its all about having a good thinkness about 1/4" tick and good welds, with good penetration in it. ie you bevel every edges you gonna weld.
what i'm trying to say. i will never pay a 1000$ for something i can build for a fraction of the price, but that's just me.
to the guy who bought the interrcooler. i suggest you to get a tool to mesure the tickness of the steel inside the intercooler and if you have at lease 1/4 inch and its well welded, dont worry about it. and if you don't like your welds and you can weld, its still gonna end up cheaper to reweld it yourself than a 1000$ very overrated one. no offence to big company or vendors on the forum
Last edited by galvatron10000; Aug 6, 2011 at 09:16 AM.
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 31,837
Likes: 3,234
From: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
The bottom line = Godspeed is not a bling bling company as opposed to Greddy, HKS etc.. the price should reflect that.. Greddy, HKS, Apexi front mount intercoolers are all north of $800 -1k retail.
Relax its just cars. Have fun and keep it rollin! I prefer the high end stuff but I have not heard of any problems with godspeed.
Relax its just cars. Have fun and keep it rollin! I prefer the high end stuff but I have not heard of any problems with godspeed.
Evil your a moron. No one has insinuated that GS is a "top name brand". I simply stated that their intercooler is often used by many forum users which means its tried and trusted and that I hope I got the correct unit shipped to me. So you can stop using "Johnny thinks GS is a glorious product!" as the basis of the argument you started cause then you would be stupid and a liar.*
I pointed out the manual because we get lot of people like you on this forum who think that they have some type of innate ability to work on their car with no training and no manual. I am simply trying to point you in the right direction so you don't end up ruining your car.
No **** I don't have the innate ability to install the kit or else I wouldn't have stated it's at JPR's shop and I wouldn't be asking about the product. Obviously you don't have the innate ability to comprehend which explains your unfocused answers and irrelevant responses. And don't say you were trying to help point me in the right direction of not ruining my car. You came in stroking your Cyber Ego Shaft with your extremely condescending comment.
And I hope they do close this thread cause I hate to be associated with tards that can't contain themselves from trying to boost their own self esteem to feel some self importance by being *** holes. *But by all means, respond however you like online. It's a free country. But don't expect not to be called out on being a retard.*
what was I being unrealistic about?
I was answering your questions and made no reference to watches
And no it doesnt cost $1000 to build a intercooler, but it does take some time to develop the kit, advertise, market, and sponsorship. Takes no effort to copy it and sell them off on ebay
Cores might be one thing, but the tanks on those look like thin stamped crap compared to the cast tanks on the geddy
F**K THE SYSTEM!!
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,591
Likes: 1
From: Florida
My brother went through 3 different cores on his evo.... The best cores even used by AMS and buschur racing = Garrett cores. They actually stay cool and dont heat soak. Ebay cores would net high AIT numbers after just 1 pull on the highway. Which would cause the ecu to pull timing on the second run..... GArrett core was the secret... the car rarely ever pulls timing now.
what was I being unrealistic about?
I was answering your questions and made no reference to watches
And no it doesnt cost $1000 to build a intercooler, but it does take some time to develop the kit, advertise, market, and sponsorship. Takes no effort to copy it and sell them off on ebay
Cores might be one thing, but the tanks on those look like thin stamped crap compared to the cast tanks on the geddy
I was answering your questions and made no reference to watches
And no it doesnt cost $1000 to build a intercooler, but it does take some time to develop the kit, advertise, market, and sponsorship. Takes no effort to copy it and sell them off on ebay
Cores might be one thing, but the tanks on those look like thin stamped crap compared to the cast tanks on the geddy
My brother went through 3 different cores on his evo.... The best cores even used by AMS and buschur racing = Garrett cores. They actually stay cool and dont heat soak. Ebay cores would net high AIT numbers after just 1 pull on the highway. Which would cause the ecu to pull timing on the second run..... GArrett core was the secret... the car rarely ever pulls timing now.
Sorry, thought u were the one who agreed with that lame comparison. But don't insult my intelligence by accusing me of being ignorant enough to state that a GS and GReddy are similar. That was on your own assumption, pal. You can see that the few ppl with actual experience with their intercooler are happy with it so like my opening statement said, "hope I got the right one." plain and simple
assumptions? what are you talking about "pal"?
I said from the start it will be fine for your application, your arguing with the wrong guy. I dont have a godspeed but I do have a greddy, and looking at the 2 kits of course they are similar because thats the kit they copied, but of course you can see the differences between them as well.
ahem erm.. ahem..
my .02 before this thread closes.
point A
isn't the point to buying a brand name part is knowing that you don't have worry about it breaking on you because of the company's standing reputation and satisfaction their customers get from using their products? In return we spend a little more money on the brand name.
point B
having a non brand name part on your car only shows that you had the extra cash to get a functional part with a known brand on it, Even though most of the parts are imported from the Chinese. (see this is how they put us against each other, got us arguing over brand names.) that and bragging rights. Im pretty sure there are plenty of non brand parts for any car, plane, bus, boat or vibrator that work just fine without any problems. yes non brand name parts have a rep of being **** but thats just you and your luck or how much research you are willing to do.
point C.
you bought it off ebay. what did you expect? nuff said.
exit.
my .02 before this thread closes.
point A
isn't the point to buying a brand name part is knowing that you don't have worry about it breaking on you because of the company's standing reputation and satisfaction their customers get from using their products? In return we spend a little more money on the brand name.
point B
having a non brand name part on your car only shows that you had the extra cash to get a functional part with a known brand on it, Even though most of the parts are imported from the Chinese. (see this is how they put us against each other, got us arguing over brand names.) that and bragging rights. Im pretty sure there are plenty of non brand parts for any car, plane, bus, boat or vibrator that work just fine without any problems. yes non brand name parts have a rep of being **** but thats just you and your luck or how much research you are willing to do.
point C.
you bought it off ebay. what did you expect? nuff said.
exit.
Last edited by rotary_bünta; Aug 6, 2011 at 09:05 PM. Reason: must keep from ranting
OP just wanted to know that his part was genuine.
Even if the brand is a cheap one, you still wanna know that's what you got.
Cheap brand is better than no brand (i.e. some guy welding in his basement vs. a company that builds a shitload that have been installed).
It's a question of peace of mind, I guess.
Can we all just be friends now?
K, and the info re: thermostat replacement...follow it, that was good advice in there. I also have a thread which may help (search something along the lines of "thermostat replacement" with my user name).
Even if the brand is a cheap one, you still wanna know that's what you got.
Cheap brand is better than no brand (i.e. some guy welding in his basement vs. a company that builds a shitload that have been installed).
It's a question of peace of mind, I guess.
Can we all just be friends now?
K, and the info re: thermostat replacement...follow it, that was good advice in there. I also have a thread which may help (search something along the lines of "thermostat replacement" with my user name).
ahem erm.. ahem..
my .02 before this thread closes.
point A
isn't the point to buying a brand name part is knowing that you don't have worry about it breaking on you because of the company's standing reputation and satisfaction their customers get from using their products? In return we spend a little more money on the brand name.
point B
having a non brand name part on your car only shows that you had the extra cash to get a functional part with a known brand on it, Even though most of the parts are imported from the Chinese. (see this is how they put us against each other, got us arguing over brand names.) that and bragging rights. Im pretty sure there are plenty of non brand parts for any car, plane, bus, boat or vibrator that work just fine without any problems. yes non brand name parts have a rep of being **** but thats just you and your luck or how much research you are willing to do.
point C.
you bought it off ebay. what did you expect? nuff said.
exit.
my .02 before this thread closes.
point A
isn't the point to buying a brand name part is knowing that you don't have worry about it breaking on you because of the company's standing reputation and satisfaction their customers get from using their products? In return we spend a little more money on the brand name.
point B
having a non brand name part on your car only shows that you had the extra cash to get a functional part with a known brand on it, Even though most of the parts are imported from the Chinese. (see this is how they put us against each other, got us arguing over brand names.) that and bragging rights. Im pretty sure there are plenty of non brand parts for any car, plane, bus, boat or vibrator that work just fine without any problems. yes non brand name parts have a rep of being **** but thats just you and your luck or how much research you are willing to do.
point C.
you bought it off ebay. what did you expect? nuff said.
exit.
....thanks for a week of entertainment ppl... seriously. god bless the few intelligent ppl that has/uses their basic comprehension skills. look for and stay tuned to more of my threads were i will be asking questions about car stuff on a car forum.
