Getting excited...rebuild with streetport and more...220hp???
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Getting excited...rebuild with streetport and more...220hp???
Getting my 90 vert rebuilt. He is going to streetport the engine, custom airbox intake, TII fuel injectors, Bonez Cat bypass pipe. Guy at shop says that will give me 220hp. My little bro. thinks thats crazy. I think he is just afraid that i'm going to spank his V-6 Camaro...What can I expect? is 220hp about right? what about adding a turbo or dare I say supercharger? I just came into some money so I might be able to swing it...oh yeah anyone use replace fan with electric fan? worth it?
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don't use the TII injectors it'll run like crap.... maybe 2 in the secondarys if you really need it... but you'll need a S-afc to tune it.
you are getting headers and full exhuast too?
you are getting headers and full exhuast too?
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Im rebuilding mine starting tomorrow and streetporting, removing actuators, and adding custom PA sleeves. 220 hp at the flywheel is possible, but im not too familar with power adding of engien modifications.
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You deff dont need to use TII injectors....mine has stock with a S-AFC and I should have about 200+ to the wheels and mine runs rich.
Wont know about the power until I dyno it Soon!
Nick
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Wont know about the power until I dyno it Soon!
Nick
P.S. Good Luck!
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Don't need the TII injectors.. not even close.
An N/A putting out 220 hp needs a lot less fuel than a turbo running 220 hp.
As for getting 220 fwhp, not too sure about that with just a street port, cat replacement pipe, and an intake filter.
More like 190 at the crank.
You would also need way more stuff....
OK- for 220..... (incl. the already mentioned mods)
port the intake manifold
ditch the air pump
smooth the 6p sleeves
get a catback
get the e-fan
get headers (loud, and only a few hp though)
dyno tune with an S-afc
get an MSD and wires
advance the timing by about 5-7 degrees (about 5-7mm on the pulley wheel)
Still won't be crazy fast on a vert... the heavy weight will really suck with the reduced low end with those mods... but once it winds out it'll be prety good. Definately beat the v6 camero,
An N/A putting out 220 hp needs a lot less fuel than a turbo running 220 hp.
As for getting 220 fwhp, not too sure about that with just a street port, cat replacement pipe, and an intake filter.
More like 190 at the crank.
You would also need way more stuff....
OK- for 220..... (incl. the already mentioned mods)
port the intake manifold
ditch the air pump
smooth the 6p sleeves
get a catback
get the e-fan
get headers (loud, and only a few hp though)
dyno tune with an S-afc
get an MSD and wires
advance the timing by about 5-7 degrees (about 5-7mm on the pulley wheel)
Still won't be crazy fast on a vert... the heavy weight will really suck with the reduced low end with those mods... but once it winds out it'll be prety good. Definately beat the v6 camero,
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PM HrricaneRX7 (I think that's his name but not sure. Do a member search if it's really worth your time) You sound exactly like him. He had a first gen and was so excited that he bought a street ported NA FC. Main reason? to tool his little brother's V-6 Camaro
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Re: Getting excited...rebuild with streetport and more...220hp???
Originally posted by pianoprodigy
Getting my 90 vert rebuilt. He is going to streetport the engine, custom airbox intake, TII fuel injectors, Bonez Cat bypass pipe. Guy at shop says that will give me 220hp. My little bro. thinks thats crazy. I think he is just afraid that i'm going to spank his V-6 Camaro...What can I expect? is 220hp about right? what about adding a turbo or dare I say supercharger? I just came into some money so I might be able to swing it...oh yeah anyone use replace fan with electric fan? worth it?
Getting my 90 vert rebuilt. He is going to streetport the engine, custom airbox intake, TII fuel injectors, Bonez Cat bypass pipe. Guy at shop says that will give me 220hp. My little bro. thinks thats crazy. I think he is just afraid that i'm going to spank his V-6 Camaro...What can I expect? is 220hp about right? what about adding a turbo or dare I say supercharger? I just came into some money so I might be able to swing it...oh yeah anyone use replace fan with electric fan? worth it?
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only 15-25 more HP???
The post above me said i'll only gain 15-25 more hp at the flywheel with streetporting, intake and bypass the cats? I mean if that's right ok, but I was under the impression that I would, worst-case scenario pull 200hp out of the stock 160 engine with streetporting, intake and bypassing the cats. I just want to be fast......
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I meant you might see 175 to the ground, but no... I dont see you making even 220fwhp.
210hp @ the flywheel, about 15% drivetrain loss, that leaves you with about 179rwhp. Thats no where the 220rwhp you said in your initial post.
210hp @ the flywheel, about 15% drivetrain loss, that leaves you with about 179rwhp. Thats no where the 220rwhp you said in your initial post.
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Right now I dynoed very close to 160rwp on my non street port N/A. A big street port will make around 20rwp or more im sure with my mods. This should put me in the 180rwp or more wich could be 220fwp im sure.
But with just the mods hes talking about then no. And a vert is heavy.
Bambam7--headers will ad more than a few hp on a streetport. I gave dyno comparisons before and after for my car vs Streight pipe after stock manifold. I got 13rwp but I also had a lot of intake mods that werent foreseen. Still though people told me it wouldnt do much if anything. But I have the dyno to prove it. Also I have seen many Dynos of people on this forum making 140rwp without headers and seems like everyone with headers are making around 150rwp. 3 and 3 so far.
But with just the mods hes talking about then no. And a vert is heavy.
Bambam7--headers will ad more than a few hp on a streetport. I gave dyno comparisons before and after for my car vs Streight pipe after stock manifold. I got 13rwp but I also had a lot of intake mods that werent foreseen. Still though people told me it wouldnt do much if anything. But I have the dyno to prove it. Also I have seen many Dynos of people on this forum making 140rwp without headers and seems like everyone with headers are making around 150rwp. 3 and 3 so far.
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Ask Mazdatrix what you could expect. They said with a bridge port on N/A you could expect to see 250 FWHP. I dont know about a street port though. Anyone have any idea on what I could expect on a 87 TII with a street port? Just wondering I will prolly follow my own advice and ask the TRIX!
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you should go to an offroad exhaust and a cold air intake. Your gonna see alot of hp and if you really want to see a difference, go to a fuel and engine management system. The stock ecu chokes the **** out of a power plant. you got to let her breathe and listen to her *** and *** and *** again! ohhh yeahhh
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I don't think you'll get over 200 Hp even with a road race header and true dual exhaust with the stock ECU. It's possible if you ditch the stock FI and slap a weber on it.
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Originally posted by Bigretardhead
nick, what are your mods?
nick, what are your mods?
Aggressive Street Port
Pineapple 6 Port Racing Sleeves
Removed Exhuast Defuser
Apexi Intake
Mazdatrix True Dual Exhaust(Racing Beat Cat-Back)
Tranmission Mods
Rebuilt Trans(Auto To Manual Swap)
MazdaTrix Short Shifter
Stainless Steel Clutch Line
#17 Racing Beat Flywheel
Act S/S Clutch
Clutch Master And Clutch Master Slave(New)
GTUs Rear End With 4.33 Gear Ratio with LSD
Fuel Mods
Apexi S-AFC Fual Controller
Interior
Mazdaspeed Shift ****
Italian Leather Shift + Ebrake Boot
SPARCO Carbon Fiber Pedals
DIN 3 Guage Holder
Maybe a few more thing....
Nick
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FlyBye116: Have you removed the diffusers all together?? When I get my N/A engine built I was going to have T2 diffusers put in. (along with S5 rotors, T2 int housing, large streetport..yadda yadda) Could you tell me why you removed them all together??? I understand it will allow more flow, but wouldnt it also create more turbulance??
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Originally posted by dr0x
I meant you might see 175 to the ground, but no... I dont see you making even 220fwhp.
210hp @ the flywheel, about 15% drivetrain loss, that leaves you with about 179rwhp. Thats no where the 220rwhp you said in your initial post.
I meant you might see 175 to the ground, but no... I dont see you making even 220fwhp.
210hp @ the flywheel, about 15% drivetrain loss, that leaves you with about 179rwhp. Thats no where the 220rwhp you said in your initial post.
listen to dr0x, he lives on mars.
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Originally posted by Rxmfn7
FlyBye116: Have you removed the diffusers all together?? When I get my N/A engine built I was going to have T2 diffusers put in. (along with S5 rotors, T2 int housing, large streetport..yadda yadda) Could you tell me why you removed them all together??? I understand it will allow more flow, but wouldnt it also create more turbulance??
FlyBye116: Have you removed the diffusers all together?? When I get my N/A engine built I was going to have T2 diffusers put in. (along with S5 rotors, T2 int housing, large streetport..yadda yadda) Could you tell me why you removed them all together??? I understand it will allow more flow, but wouldnt it also create more turbulance??
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Originally posted by Rxmfn7
FlyBye116: Have you removed the diffusers all together?? When I get my N/A engine built I was going to have T2 diffusers put in. (along with S5 rotors, T2 int housing, large streetport..yadda yadda) Could you tell me why you removed them all together??? I understand it will allow more flow, but wouldnt it also create more turbulance??
FlyBye116: Have you removed the diffusers all together?? When I get my N/A engine built I was going to have T2 diffusers put in. (along with S5 rotors, T2 int housing, large streetport..yadda yadda) Could you tell me why you removed them all together??? I understand it will allow more flow, but wouldnt it also create more turbulance??
And as for why... well Ito (rx-7 god in NJ at J.R.'s Rotary) Thought that would be best and most flowing for the streetport that was being done.
Nick
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This post is really old but.....
I just finished my 1,000 mile break in. Getting my Racing Beat downpipe and presilencer installed tomorrow at the 1,000 mile checkup. The car runs great, but remember its a vert, so....yeah....i'm probably gonna get the Camden S/C and run like 6 psi boost. That should give me enough to pacify me...for awhile...
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Originally posted by j200pruf
I thought the kewl thing about the TII rotor housings was that they didn't have exhaust difusers?
I thought the kewl thing about the TII rotor housings was that they didn't have exhaust difusers?
So use the regular N/A housings and take sometime to port it nicely
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No S-AFC
Yeah,
I've heard both ways. The guy at the Mazda shop said that the secondaries will help at high rpms. I haven't taken the car over 6k yet so I don't know how it will run. Plus, I'm thinking about the Camden S/C kit which will require me to go carb anyways and I can't use an S-AFC then, Right? I don't know, we'll see how it goes.
I've heard both ways. The guy at the Mazda shop said that the secondaries will help at high rpms. I haven't taken the car over 6k yet so I don't know how it will run. Plus, I'm thinking about the Camden S/C kit which will require me to go carb anyways and I can't use an S-AFC then, Right? I don't know, we'll see how it goes.
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