gas milage, wtf:
Originally Posted by emac
you're flooring it too much because of the mods 

On my 85 se I used to get 21 if I babied it and 19.5 if I drove it hard. My 89 only gets 18-19 after a full tune up and O2 sensor. Automatic though, and it wont shift to the next gear until 5k or so.
When I got my SE to begin with, I accidently cruised 85 miles in 4th at 70~75mph abd got about 17mpg. Driving normally after that for the rest of the 540 mile trip I got close to 30.
sad thing is my 1.3 liter RX-7 put down just a hair more than half the horsepower than my bimmer and weighs 750lbs less, yet the bimmer gets 30~35mpg almost regardless of how I drive her.
sad thing is my 1.3 liter RX-7 put down just a hair more than half the horsepower than my bimmer and weighs 750lbs less, yet the bimmer gets 30~35mpg almost regardless of how I drive her.
Originally Posted by Makenzie71
sad thing is my 1.3 liter RX-7 put down just a hair more than half the horsepower than my bimmer and weighs 750lbs less, yet the bimmer gets 30~35mpg almost regardless of how I drive her.
Originally Posted by BigMike85
Probably because BMW has better fuel management computers than our FC's do...... or I should hope so.


Originally Posted by blasterfoo
I get a bout 260 miles on my 88 n/a tank and it still has a little more than a quarter of a tank left........Mine usally gets about 24 mpg.
but that's after i leaned it out a bunch with an afc...still working on it.
180 miles and at half tank.........SAFC leaned out and easy 80 mph cruising for hours (hwy trip and mild city driving) whoooooooo...........had it been my TII it would have gotten 15 mph......will lwt you guys know what the MPG was for this tank sometime this week.......love the NA+safc (but i'm still looking for a cheap *** 30+mpg beater)
Originally Posted by BigMike85
Probably because BMW has better fuel management computers than our FC's do...... or I should hope so.


yeahhhhhh i hate gas, because when my motor was still in i got 12mpg...everywhere. highway, city anywhere. it sucked. but then again i guess a 4700lb monster that gets 20mpg is annoying too
Yep, fuel management has little to do with the efficiency of the rotary engine. Yeah, our cars run rich but leaning the air/fuel mixture just shy of detonation would not help much with fuel economy.
The high ratio of combustion surface area to combustion volume (displacement) is the reason why our cars **** gas. Its nothing more than simple thermodynamics.
This is why I drive a car that gets 51 mpg at 70 mph,47 mpg at 80 mph, and about 40 mpg in hard city stop and go driving. My vert is driving only on weekends and mostly for a short cruise. Gotta keep the miles down, I don't want to break 26,000 miles until next year.
The high ratio of combustion surface area to combustion volume (displacement) is the reason why our cars **** gas. Its nothing more than simple thermodynamics.
This is why I drive a car that gets 51 mpg at 70 mph,47 mpg at 80 mph, and about 40 mpg in hard city stop and go driving. My vert is driving only on weekends and mostly for a short cruise. Gotta keep the miles down, I don't want to break 26,000 miles until next year.
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Originally Posted by Madrx7racer
180 miles and at half tank.........SAFC leaned out and easy 80 mph cruising for hours (hwy trip and mild city driving) whoooooooo...........had it been my TII it would have gotten 15 mph......will lwt you guys know what the MPG was for this tank sometime this week.......love the NA+safc (but i'm still looking for a cheap *** 30+mpg beater)
) My first car was an '89 Mustang GT, and I averaged 12 mpg mixed. I actually managed to get 8 mpg on one tank. Of course gas was only $0.80 a gallon back then....... My wifes car is a Geo Metro that gets 45 mpg with the a/c off, 35 with it on. Then again it cant make it up any kinda of hill without slowing down.
Originally Posted by SmogSUX
I'm not reading all that...but try shifting at 3-4k. Rotarys are more efficient at a bit higher rpms. Can't granny shift like in the piston cars 

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Originally Posted by homebrewer
Yep, fuel management has little to do with the efficiency of the rotary engine. Yeah, our cars run rich but leaning the air/fuel mixture just shy of detonation would not help much with fuel economy.
The high ratio of combustion surface area to combustion volume (displacement) is the reason why our cars **** gas. Its nothing more than simple thermodynamics.
The high ratio of combustion surface area to combustion volume (displacement) is the reason why our cars **** gas. Its nothing more than simple thermodynamics.
Originally Posted by SmogSUX
I'm not reading all that...but try shifting at 3-4k. Rotarys are more efficient at a bit higher rpms. Can't granny shift like in the piston cars 

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according to my S-AFC in 1st gear cruising at 5500RPM my car pulls ~25% AFL.
same speed, 4th gear = 3.6% airflow.
the math is pretty easy to figure out here, I'm using WAY LESS fuel in 4th than in 1st..
I "granny shift" my car putzing in traffic all the time, 2200rpm shifts are normal for me.. I don't see the point in shifting higher!
my 12A was a different beast entirely though, I'd see 5000 on that all the time, and 4000+ just putzing.. that just LOVED to rev, my TII doesn't feel the same.
obviously, when driving fast I shift /way/ higher... I'm talking about putting around behind slow cars in traffic... but this engine has been introduced to the rev limiter more times than I can count.
12A's seem to get the best gas milage of any rx7, probably due to having a smaller motor... even the EPA estimates say 30mpg highway on s2 and s3 cars!
same speed, 4th gear = 3.6% airflow.
the math is pretty easy to figure out here, I'm using WAY LESS fuel in 4th than in 1st..
I "granny shift" my car putzing in traffic all the time, 2200rpm shifts are normal for me.. I don't see the point in shifting higher!
my 12A was a different beast entirely though, I'd see 5000 on that all the time, and 4000+ just putzing.. that just LOVED to rev, my TII doesn't feel the same.
obviously, when driving fast I shift /way/ higher... I'm talking about putting around behind slow cars in traffic... but this engine has been introduced to the rev limiter more times than I can count.
12A's seem to get the best gas milage of any rx7, probably due to having a smaller motor... even the EPA estimates say 30mpg highway on s2 and s3 cars!
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