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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 05:27 AM
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Full power steering removal!!!

I pulled the belt, pump, bracket, and kut the lines... What about the lines to the rack???

Can i just solid bolt them??
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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You need to loop them back on each other with a hose. Search the forums for details.

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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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Just curious as to why your removing you P. Pump???
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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block off all the lines on the steering box.

connect the 2 lines on the rack itself. do not turn the steering wheel before you have everything closed up, or you may bind up your rack, without enough fluid inside the rack to keep it lubricated,.
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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There's also another, more thorough way to depower your rack on this forum as well. It involves removing the internal seals on the rack and everything.
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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the easy way is take everything out , then even take the hoses off.

then fill rack with fluid and install the 3 block off bolts .

( just normal bolts cut to the correct lenth )

I forget the pitch and length, but its on the forum somewhere.
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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go with a manual rack.

If you use the ps rack , DO NOT want to just block off the holes, you need to use a hose and loop them back to each other like wranklin mentioned first.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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go with a manual rack.

If you use the ps rack , DO NOT want to just block off the holes, you need to use a hose and loop them back to each other like wranklin mentioned first.
Why do you HAVE to loop ?

Many , many people have done the block off with no problems after a few years of running.

Key part is put pwr stearing fluid in it and then block off.

Oh and if anyone needs the sizes its:

2x M12 x 1.25 aprox 10-15mm then cut to your exact needing

1x M16 x 1.5 aprox 10-15 mm again.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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Just used this method of de-powering my rack.

http://flyinmiata.com/tech/depower.php?x=1

It went perfect. The link is for a Miata but it is basically the same.

I have not got it installed back in the car yet. Well, it doesn't matter anyway. It will be the end of the summer before it is driven again.

But I think it is the best way I have seen so far.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Just go to your local junk yard and get a manual rack. Mine cost something like $30. The steering is still pretty stiff at a stop with the manual. Much more solid feel while driving though.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FC3S.USD
Why do you HAVE to loop ?

Many , many people have done the block off with no problems after a few years of running.

Key part is put pwr stearing fluid in it and then block off.

Oh and if anyone needs the sizes its:

2x M12 x 1.25 aprox 10-15mm then cut to your exact needing

1x M16 x 1.5 aprox 10-15 mm again.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/steering2.htm

Some people even go as far to have the lines recirculating with a vented resivoir. Your basically fighting the fluid pressure in the rack, it has to do with the piston and those 2 holes.

Manual rack is best
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Manual rack sucks. The gearing ratio is too high. The 17. whatever power rack converted into manual is best. Driven both.

Just loop the lines together with a spare piece of hose.

TO do it right, follow that Flying Miata link.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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Writeup by TitaniumTT

Shows how to remove the seals and weld the control valve assembly; by far the best way to do it.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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^Indeed, that is the best way. I did it the FM way the first time on my 17.4:1 rack (archived) and then I did it that way on a 15.2:1 rack and I like it a lot better now, more direct, faster, but a little more effort.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by YaNi
Writeup by TitaniumTT

Shows how to remove the seals and weld the control valve assembly; by far the best way to do it.
I wish I had seen this one week ago....
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 02:07 AM
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I just got done with TitaniumTT's method. Haven't installed it back in the car though, and it'll be a few months before it's running again unfortunately.

Went smoothly though.
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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I need help with this issue, i removed my belt because one of my rubber boots broke, then my PS fluid leaked out completely, my friend says my seal broke, i just clam the boot back on, can i keep driving like this? or do i have to get a new rack? Thanks
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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The boot is there to keep crap out, not to keep the fluid in, your rack's broken, get a new one.
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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Damn how long will ill be able to drive with this one? is it difficult to change? Is there a write up i could use?
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeriel
Is it difficult to change? Is there a write up i could use?
Not particularly and you need to get yourself a manual, either Haynes or the FSM that you can download off the net.
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