goinfromslow

Ok I'm new to this club. For the past 4 years I been wanting a 2 gen rx-7 or a 2 gen Mr-2. Well I couldn't really find one in my price range for what I wanted to do. I wanted to swap the engines with a jdm one from the engine importer 20 mins away. The problem was I would find one without a engine 1000's of miles away cheap or one local for 3's. I finally found one 3 hours away. This is what the guy said "im trying to get rid of it soon $350 takes it.It has new tires,new aftermarket drive shaft,new brakes,new clutch,its yellow with no clear coat"it got washed off",and a big *** fukin shopping cart wing.it has a prob. going over 30mph. we have changed mad **** but cant figure it out.just want it gone." Its a 1989 Gtu body. Now I don't know all the models the Rx-7 comes in, but I really like the wide body the Turbo II has. Well 350 for the car and 1200 for the engine would be like having a rebuilt Rx-7 for 1550. You can't bet that. I was just wondering from you guys if I should take the 3 hour trip and pick it up. If you guys could help me that would mean a lot. Thanks

matts86fc3s

mmm... i dunno bout that one, sounds like you'll have alot of problems. it has a problem going over 30 mph... i bet hes talking about the 3800 rpm hesitation almost all rx7s have, its a simple fix but... sounds like a piece to me. and turbo II's dont have a wide body. there the same body but with a hoodscoop. and its alot of work to do the turbo motor swap. its a completely different motor. youll also need the turbo wiring harness, turbo computer, turbo transmission, turbo driveshaft, and turbo rear end. there all different (alot stronger) and you better make sure that turbo engine you can get is an s5 engine. if its an s4 turbo engine it wont work. s4 cars were made between 1986 to 1988, and s5 cars were made between 1989 and 1991. the electrical system, wiring harness, computer, and connector plugs are completely different from s4 cars to s5 cars although the body remains pretty much the same. do your homework before getting this car, make sure its got a good straight body, good clean interior, everything works properly, and it starts up and runs good. you can probly fix that "over 30 mph" problem, but dont count on any mechanic knowing what it is becuase most of the time no one knows a damn thing about these cars. good luck... these cars are fun as hell to drive, so make sure you get a good one you can enjoy

matts86fc3s

oh yeah, welcome to the forum!

goinfromslow

Thanks alot. The engine shop is giving me everything but the drive shaft and the rear end. I like the 13b-re but I looked it up and its alot of work. They have it for a couple more 100's. I'm hoping to get pictures tomorrow or Monday. I will post them when I get them. I heard about the 3800 rpm problem. Its when the secondary don't open up. If its that its a pretty much easy fix. You really can't hope for a running car for 350 dollars. I really just want a clean straight body, without rust or little to none. My brother will fix my car for free. Thats what brothers do. I really hope it works out for me. Fingers crossed!!!!

fcdrifter13

All FCs have the same bodies, unlesss you are counting the sport package that comes on the T2. As far as I know they didnt come wide body. 350$ is a hella good deal though. Id pick it up. If all else falils you can part it.

And you could always turbo your NA, thats what I am doing as soon as my new motor is broken in.

rotorforce

Sounds like a deal but the paint thing scares me.. How does clear coat wash off? Either way if it needs to be repainted by a professional your talking at least thousands depending on where you go.

SayNoToPistons

lol ill take it for 1500.

goinfromslow

Nah man you got it twisted. The paint factor gives it the sleeper look. Nah I really what to paint it like black or charcoal grey. You guys are really cool. Them bitches on the honda forums I chat on are some dick. All they do it tack ****, and brag about parts that they dont have on there cars. I like the Rx-7 because you can't just read a book and know how it works like the Hondas. Plus no one has any hooked up around me, **** no one has one period. Well there was like 3 Fd's in Manassas my brother told me. He did work for their crew at the shop he works at. But thats it only Civics, and Integra. Ohh yea and the ricj wrx guys (hate them guys). Thanks for you guys help.

sar

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An s4 motor will work as long as he also gets and s4 ecu (and needed resitors for injectors) which should be included if he gets the full clip.

Actually the NA drivetrain should be able to withdstand about 225hp (really dep on torque) so you could get a converting driveshaft (or get an NA flywheel/starter/counterweight) and not have the added expense of diff and halfshafts (transmission).

$350 is an amazing price for any running car, even a completely totaled car. You could send the engine to Kevin (rotary resurrection)and get it rebuilt for $1000 or get your import if it is blown. I tend to think that not going over 30 is more than the 3800 rpm as 3800 rpm in 5th is over 70mph and you can completely go from 0-70 granny style without the secondaries - an apex seal, maybe two have blown. The GTU is the very base model without power or sport anything - beware. You could either buy this car and spend a lot of money fixing it up and adding a lot of stuff to it or look for one in better condition and pay the premium for a nicer car or turbo II which will realistically cost less than you worrying about paint/motor/non vented brakes/manual windows/manual locks/no alarm/ etc. or do what i did aand do a combination of the 2.

mycarisolderthanme

That's completely far off. S4's had different bumpers and mouldings than the S5's, and certain models had wings while some did not. There was also the Sport model during the S4 years that came with a different wing, a crappy little rubber front lip thing, and some accents near the rear wheel wells. Also, some had sunroofs and others did not.

But yeah, there are no widebody FC's from the factory, as badass as that would be. Maybe you were thinking of a 944? =p

goinfromslow

Nah I was thinking of the wide rear and front fenders. I guess it didn't come out so good. Once I see the car I'm gonna go from there. I will post pictures and ask you guy what should I do. I didn't know the Gtu was the base model, thanks for that info. I really don't mind about roll down the windows and stuff (less weight) even if it nice.I still can't believe how nice you Fc guys are. I would of got flamed and told not to get the car on any other club. SAR thanks for you knowledge I glad you could let me know that. I will have to ask you anything about the car if I get it in the future. I keep hearing about rebuilting it. I think it would be cheaper just to get a new engine. Your looking at 1200 for a rebuilt in even with shipping or 1200 for a whole swap, then if it ever blowns I could do the same thing and sell the extra parts. Thats just how I see it. If it was a piston engine yea I would rebuild but this rotary engine cost a lot to rebuild. Thanks for everyones input. The guy said he doesn't have a camara but he will try to get me some pictures. Also he said the bodys good, besides the clear coat, and alone 2 cuts in the rear bumber. Not cracks like knife cuts (damn kids), also missing a couple rear inside pieces.

Icemark

BTW: the GTU was only the base model is 89 and 90. In 88 (the first year of the GTU) it was the sportest model in the line up.

There is a sticky thread at the top of this the 2nd gen technical section that has all the info on the Standard Features and Options for the US models for each model year.

sar

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Well, Kevin landers will make sure it is working for the $1000, of course you would have to take it out, ship it to him, pay for shipment back, and then put it back in which adds a bunch of costs. Look on your region forum for a rbeuilders list, maybe somebody rebuilds near you and you could prob pay extra and they'd even take it out of the car for you. From minor experience and watching engines being rebuilt I would say that overall it's actually easier to get good at rebuilding the rotary esp. The whole crank -> rod prcoess just seems too complex and makes me think how much eaier it would be if gatech could do their sae car with a rotary - less parts, less fine measurements, and the engine has to be rebuilt less.

Def wait for pics before driving 6 hours and renting a trailer to haul a car back. You pretty much want to be sure you're going to buy the car unless something that is completely unexpected isn't there (in this case if the interrior were shattered or outside was all dented). If the guy doenst have a digital he could always snail mail pictures.

O, and icemark, nice point on the s4 GTU, the s5 "sportiest" NA was the GTUs. These cars are sporty due to their lightweight while still having many of the sport parts.

As for the help and attitude, thanks for the feedback and feel free to pm me and/or post any other questions you have.

RenofHeavens

True story:

My old GTUs/TII's N/A drivetrain held up longer than the motor. I launched more than 2 dozen times and never had problems. Car had full exhaust, fuel pump ect...

goinfromslow

Icemark thanks for telling me about the sticky. Now I know what SAR was talking about with just buying a turbo II. They seem to have everything in it. How do they get a Momo steering wheel, thats not cool. I will look into a rebuilder maybe for the future. I'm planning on going turbo from day 1. So I don't think I'm keeping the old stuff and need it rebuilt. It's going to be my project car so this summer I should be driving it. I want to hook it up first the drive later. Whats the fastest N/A to turbo swap done? What to try to beat it.

mycarisolderthanme

The niceness will end soon, I assure you.

fcdrifter13

you misunderstood what i said. All the bodies(as in no widebody) are the same. I know about the front rear bumpers mouldings, hood and hinge differences, so on and so forth.

fcdrifter13

I plan on running as much power as I can on my NA/turbo project. So glad I already got a 88GTU to start from though.

goinfromslow

Its been along time guys. The past months as sucked for me with buying a car. The rx7 fell thru because the guy wouldn't send me no pictures, and I found me a 2 gen mr2, and was going to get it but the guy took a week to get back to be so I didnt have a truck to get it, and he live just about 400 miles away 800 round trip and at .20 cents a mile. It adds up. While heres the news now. I just found a new 1986 rx7 4 500 dollars and has pictures. It needs a rebuild. I'm planning on turboing whatever I get so that saves me time. I really liked the s5's but I guess a s4 will do. Is there a big differents in looks and the inside? Here goes the link http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/car/159480866.html . Can anyone tell me what model that is, and yea the inside cell phone will get throw out the window on the drive home.

Iketh

oh my.... SNAG IT !! the front looks horrible but the body appears almost perfect and the interior looks real clean!

also, I prefer S4 bodies as they are the lightest... each year from 86-91 the FC got heavier (2600-2900)

fcdrifter13

Wow that is clean

sintri

lol, hell, think I'll snag it, looks bit fishy though... the guy sound's bit funny, even more so than the thread starter.

think our house has a bit too many cars though, and probably can't afford to park another, much less a probably none-working car.

fcdrifter13

Low compression though that about kills it but damn its so cheap. If I was closer Id get it.

sintri

I need a parts car anyways

lol, there just seems to be something wrong with taking other car's parts and adding it to your own. dunno if I get it I'll probably keep it around till I can work on it later, though first off dunno if the car's legit and no clue where I'll park it.

MaczPayne

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i got this for 500 bux, and it's my daily driver: