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Old May 18, 2004 | 08:13 AM
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FMIC Project Back on track

OK guys... I got the latest version of my intercooler from JRPerrott.. IT FITS PERFECTLY!!!! I will post pics tonight....

JR has saved the design, so if you want one, all ya gotta do is ask him to make you one!!!! (i'll post his email with the pics tonight).

Pipe work... Here is the rub... Promical has apparently dropped off the map... I never got the aluminum bends i ordered from them two months ago, their website is all screwed up, and Jack doesn't answer his phone..... SO... were back to square one... my buddy who works in the metal shop at a local business and has access to a mandrel bender! I'll have the front end done in a week or so (the pipe work from the intercooler through the metal around the radiator), but won't be able to fab up the rest untill i get my motor back in the car.

BATTERY RELOCATION.. sorry guys, but for all you that don't want to do it.... with running the pipes like this, its a must... the greddy kits post IC pipe work comes in under the headlights and to the extreme right of the battery then snakes behind the battery along the shock tower. my design come in right beside the radiator... right were the battery sits.. no way around it, if you run the pipes like this, gotta move the battery!!! You'll see what I mean when I post the pics...

Look for more technical comments when the pics of the mounted intercooler are posted tonight
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Old May 18, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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Sounds great!! Any guess on pricing?? Are you gonna mass-produce this or do a group buy maybe?? Also, is there a battery relocation kit readily available? I'm very interested in this and had been following the last thread closely... can't wait to see the final product
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Old May 18, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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I need one of those smiley pictures that says “This thread is pointless with out pic’s”. hehe

For your mandrel bends have you thought about Summit racing. I believe they sell all the way up to 3” in SS mandrel bends (90’s, 45’s, etc.)

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Old May 18, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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I'm trying to get this thing to look as professional as possible, if my man can get his machine tweaked to make the front tubes as one piece, then it will aslo bring the cost way down over buying a bunch of mandrel bends and welding them together.

And I'm at work now.... can't be uploadin pics from the gubment servers!!!
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Old May 19, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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Do you know how long these will be on sale for?

Is it going to be a group buy or can we order them anytime?
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Old May 19, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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PICS!!!


This one is of the front of the car.. note that the angled ends of the IC point downward.. this allows you to use the bellypan without mangling it up!!


this is a look at how the IC fits from inside the car, ,note, you have to modify the stamped metal bracket that the coolant bottle sits on by cutting out the side that faces the oil cooler.


This is a shot looking in the input tube.. the final design clears that pesky round frame brace quite nicely!!


this is a shot of where the metal is going to be cut out for the tube to go through on the passenger side (white circle)


and this has nothing to do with the fmic project but i'm just so damn happy with myself with how i mounted my FPR and Filter!!!
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Old May 19, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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whoops,,, almost double posted

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Old May 19, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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wow that looks awsome! what size is the IC core and with endtanks? and are you gonna be selling these? how much. can can you get some pics from farther away please.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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THE IC's.. just like the one pictured above, can be bought through JR Perrott for 320 shipped. It's the Core is 20X8X3 with three inch end tanks and 2.5 inch pipes. JR can be reached @ jrprp11@netzero.com

Now that the design of the IC is finalized, I'm going to get to working on the pipework. DISCLAIMER... I'm going to design the pipe work for a car with NO A/C and the battery relocated to the rear bins. If you want to keep the battery and the AC and want this intercooler, then you'll have to design your own pipes for now. BUT, running the pipes beside the radiator on the drivers side is all but impossible with the battery still there.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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320 shippped for that intercooler and it fits so perfectly? What other mods did you have to do to make it bolt on so easily?
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Old May 19, 2004 | 11:03 PM
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You may need to get an engine in there to test fit the piping, eh? Looks great, Im in the market for a FMIC, and I was about to buy a Greddy, but I think Ill wait and see what yours turns out like. Any estimates on a date when all the piping will be complete and kits ready to go?
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Old May 20, 2004 | 12:17 AM
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320 and ill buy it.. how does the intercooler bolt to the body or does it just sit there and the pipes hold it in place?
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Old May 20, 2004 | 12:23 AM
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Just a note, a lot of tracks don't like the FPR being bolted up to the firewall like that.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 01:25 AM
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So the A/C is going to be in the way now too? I thought it was just the battery that was getting chopped?

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Old May 20, 2004 | 06:43 AM
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Just to let you guys know, I have the Greddy kit and it can't be beat. It will be more expensive but its all for a reason.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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hey man we all know about the Greddy unit you dont ened to come into someone elses thread and talk about it when hes trying to sell his
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Old May 20, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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320 and ill buy it.. how does the intercooler bolt to the body or does it just sit there and the pipes hold it in place?
I'll post a pic tonight of how it bolts up... Its very solid actually.

Basically, there are mounting tabs on the bottom of the intercooler that stick out under the frame rails, i drilled holes through the tabs and into the frams rails and then the used self tapping bolts to fasten it to the frame rails. I also placed a rubber bushing between the tab and the frame to help with vibration.

The top of the intercooler has two tabs that stick out towards the front of the car.. what i did was take a dremel tool and cut slits in the bracket that the intercooler sits under and slid the tabs through the slits. When everything is done, I'll drill holes in the tabs and put keeper pins in them with rubber grommets behind them.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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Just to let you guys know, I have the Greddy kit and it can't be beat. It will be more expensive but its all for a reason.
In my past threads on this intercooler, I've already stated the the Greddy is a better unit and if you are planning on running monster boost with a highly modified car, you should probably think about the Greddy kit. Honestly, If I had 900-1000 bucks to burn, I'd have bought it.

HOWEVER... my 3 big problems with the Greddy are

1) Sits right in the front of the car where its prone to damage by rocks, speed bumps, dumbasses backing into your car in a parking lot etc.

2) Gotta tear the bumper apart to get it in there.

3) Its ungodly expensive for my purposes.

Basically, this IC is for someone running higher HP than Stock and has the need for a better intercooler, but doesn't really need or have the money for the Greddy.

Also, I'm not in competition with Greddy, I'm not even making the IC's, I just had one made to my specific needs and am saying, "here's what I got and where you can get it"

the Next step is to make the pipes and say "here is how i did it and if you want it, this is what it costs, or here is how to make it!!"
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Old May 20, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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I can see your point with the price.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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So will you be silling whole "kits"? As in, we pay you, and get the IC and all the piping. Or will you just be selling the piping, and we will then have to purcahse the IC core from that other place?
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Old May 20, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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hey man we all know about the Greddy unit you dont ened to come into someone elses thread and talk about it when hes trying to sell his
these cores are way better than any greedy core
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Old May 20, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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i have a 25x12x3 fmic made by this guy also...i did my piping in and out of the core diffrent, im keeping a/c and power steering, battery has been relocated, keeping bumper support, some cutting involved, hopefully i will have pics in about a week
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Old May 20, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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yearsofdecay, not trying to hi jack your thread or nothing just trying to tell people thats its still possible to keep power steering and a/c because this guy will make the end tanks however you want
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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Heres the deal on the Power Steering and A/C

Its totally possible to keep the Power Steering and A/C with this IC design.. HOWEVER... you'll just have to make your own pipes cause I'm keeping my PS but ditching the AC, once i get MY car done, THEN, I'll see about finding a guinea pig to make the pipes for a car with the AC still in it...

Pipe work aint a big deal, especially if you have access to a tig welder. What I'm trying to do now is come up with a preformed pipe section that will elimintate most if not all of the welding and allow you to just slap it on. (this all hinges on how of what my buddies been telling me his machine can do it can actually do!!!!)

I tried to come up with the best way to design the core that would result in the shortest possible pipe runs to and from the IC.. A lot of guys who want to keep their battery up front will run both pipes through the passenger side of the radiator metal.. the turbo side is relatively the same as my design, however, the T/B side is routed from the drivers side of the intercooler, through the passenger side of the radiator and then up over the top of the motor to the throttle body. (a lot of the guys running Starion IC's do this as well) Not only does it look funky, if you lay a wire along that part, its about 3-four feet longer a pipe run that this design.

Another approach is to run the pipes up under the headlights and around the battery, but, again, this adds length and complexity to the pipes. but it can be done if you've got a mind to!!!
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by calio64
these cores are way better than any greedy core
Keep in mind... I NEVER Made that statement, BUT, they are beefier, thats for sure. JR's welds are not skimpy in the least.

I'd really rather not get into a pissing contest about these cores being better or worse than a Greddy as its pretty much comparing apples to oranges. They are different animals all together.
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