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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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ok i have an 88 gtu and i just decided that i want to turbo it and i have pretty much everything to do it but theres one problem an intercooler, i dont want to cut or hack this car so i need pics of fmic setups so i can get some ideas
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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The common cheap FMIC I hear refered to most on these boards is to use the intercooler from a Mitsu. Starion/Chrystler Conquest. This is probably the route I will be taking as well, they can be found on ebay for under $100, most are in between $60 and $80. Most common shipping charges is $20 for ups ground, though be careful, I've seen a few auctions that want $45 for shipping!
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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Never did expect 6port turbo's to become trendy, lol. There's not much anybody can here can do to provide you with pics because we have no idea which method you're using to do it, and considering each method changes the intercooler piping rather extremely, it's pretty hard to get a rough idea.

Realisticly how much are you looking to spend to turbo it?
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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yea i'm basically trying to figure out the best route to run the tubes without cutting the car up. how much well not much really because i have a complete TII motor harness and computer so i'll probably pick at the TII motor for what i need and then i'll part the rest of it out

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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Just use the top mount and hack the manifolds up (you'll lose some power possibly, but it'll be cheap and work). That should be good for a nice mild boost in power.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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You wont be able to do a FMIC without hacking up the car.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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nope im in the middle of doing a fmic setup with custom piping and every way that I try to use to make it work seems to involve me cutting something...actually more like some things. Ill try to get pics when Im done. im almost considering placing it in front of the radiator and swaping to an efan so i can move the radiator a little more forward.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 88 GTU
yea i'm basically trying to figure out the best route to run the tubes without cutting the car up. how much well not much really because i have a complete TII motor harness and computer so i'll probably pick at the TII motor for what i need and then i'll part the rest of it out

Search for BlueTII's v-mount.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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Search for BlueTII's v-mount.
It's actually an H mount. Still very unique and awesome setup.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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Having seen it in person, I can definately agree..
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I just mounted my FMIC not too long ago and not hacking anything would be quite the accomplishment. You can still hack while maintaining a nice, clean look, just don't rush anything. The most obvious hacking locations are out of site unless you really look anyways.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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Didnt the greddy kits not require any cuting??? The intake and charge pipe ran the way..
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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greddy kit requires a lot of cutting. Even moreso if you want to keep the reinforcement.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ilike2eatricers
greddy kit requires a lot of cutting. Even moreso if you want to keep the reinforcement.
Im talking about the old school ones... with the injector bung..
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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That enforcement brace is what gives you your handaling. I would avoid cuting that to the point of scratching the idea of a FMIC. As well avoid the fender wrinkles as this is designd to alow the body to give in a specific way when involved in a server crash. Any links on that H mount? would like to see.
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Originally Posted by iceblue
That enforcement brace is what gives you your handaling. I would avoid cuting that to the point of scratching the idea of a FMIC. As well avoid the fender wrinkles as this is designd to alow the body to give in a specific way when involved in a server crash. Any links on that H mount? would like to see.
That brace doesn't do anything for handling, it's just a big thick bumper to try to absorb damage at low speed crashes to prevent destroying the car completly, it doesn't hinder safety at higher speed accidents because the car still crumples like it should, it just usually means that the car will receieve more damage to the frame/etc in the process.

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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by iceblue
That enforcement brace is what gives you your handaling. I would avoid cuting that to the point of scratching the idea of a FMIC. As well avoid the fender wrinkles as this is designd to alow the body to give in a specific way when involved in a server crash. Any links on that H mount? would like to see.
The stock reinforcement doesnt do **** for handling. It's only made of about 1/4" thick fiberglass. Although it's probably wouldnt do too much in a high speed crash it's better than nothing and good for low speed accidents. That's why I took the extra effort to fit it in with my greddy fmic.
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Any brace whatsoever that condolls to th ridgity of a vehical contributes to the handaling. How much of the front subframe do you think is left to enforce ridgity if you cut it all up?
Old Apr 26, 2005 | 12:19 AM
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Any brace whatsoever that condolls to th ridgity of a vehical contributes to the handaling. How much of the front subframe do you think is left to enforce ridgity if you cut it all up?
Theres a heavy duty brace that goes under the car and attaches to the chasis. it goes right unde the motor IIRC. That realy does affect the handling if removed( trust me I removed it) and It feels dangerous going over 100 mph, the car feels unstable like the mkIII supras with the targa removed. And no the POS fiberglass bumper does nothing for handling...
Old Apr 26, 2005 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by iceblue
Any brace whatsoever that condolls to th ridgity of a vehical contributes to the handaling. How much of the front subframe do you think is left to enforce ridgity if you cut it all up?
Dude you need to get your facts straight. First of all it's not a subframe. It's a bumper reinforcement made of fiberglass. Second I doubt anybody would not even notice if the reinforcement was removed. Have you even seen one of these? Third, you have probably havent even seen how I cut my reinforcement or how much I cut from it so if I were you I wouldnt even talk.

Here's a link to my thread so you can see what I'm talking about https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...+reinforcement
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Originally Posted by ilike2eatricers
Dude you need to get your facts straight. First of all it's not a subframe. It's a bumper reinforcement made of fiberglass. Second I doubt anybody would not even notice if the reinforcement was removed. Have you even seen one of these? Third, you have probably havent even seen how I cut my reinforcement or how much I cut from it so if I were you I wouldnt even talk.

Here's a link to my thread so you can see what I'm talking about https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...+reinforcement
WHO! damn dood did you wake up on the worng side of bed? A kid steal your lunch money this morning? Miss the buss to work? Shees read my post befor goin all off on someone and being an ***. We are not even talking about the same freeking enforcement your 3 feet on another side of the car as me. So evryone that tryd to go of on me and point fingers YOUR ON THE WRONG SIDE OF CAR!
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 12:46 AM
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WHO! damn dood did you wake up on the worng side of bed? A kid steal your lunch money this morning? Miss the buss to work? Shees read my post befor goin all off on someone and being an ***. We are not even talking about the same freeking enforcement your 3 feet on another side of the car as me. So evryone that tryd to go of on me and point fingers YOUR ON THE WRONG SIDE OF CAR!
You dont cut that when you put on an FMIC. You shouldnt comment on something you have no clue about..

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Originally Posted by iceblue
WHO! damn dood did you wake up on the worng side of bed? A kid steal your lunch money this morning? Miss the buss to work? Shees read my post befor goin all off on someone and being an ***. We are not even talking about the same freeking enforcement your 3 feet on another side of the car as me. So evryone that tryd to go of on me and point fingers YOUR ON THE WRONG SIDE OF CAR!
Well apparently I wasnt the only person who was confused by your terminology.

I thought it was pretty obvious we were all talking about the BUMPER reinforcement. Any company or individual that designs/produces a FMIC kit that requires the subframe (what you are calling "the reinforcement") to be cut up designed it poorly.
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then make yourself clear and tell us what the *** are you talking about.
I never said the ****** front bumper did I? And in second post I specifyd sub frame and again people posted the damn front bumper enforcement what do you want me to do mail you the parts off the car?
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Well apparently I wasnt the only person who was confused by your terminology.

I thought it was pretty obvious we were all talking about the BUMPER reinforcement. Any company or individual that designs/produces a FMIC kit that requires the subframe (what you are calling "the reinforcement") to be cut up designed it poorly.
Sorry for confushions inded one of the reson I shook my head when someone said something somewhere about greddy kit directing you to cut it all up unless u do some kinda custom piping didnt seem to logical to me.

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