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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Wink FMIC finally done







Using the car daily which I never thought I would do, but it's been running great.

Megasquirt V2.2 spark + fuel, Bosch 1600cc secondaries, Turbonetics 60-1, HKS racing bypass valve, TiAL external wastegate.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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nicely done, i have the exact setup as you, fmic wise. cutting and measuring is getting on my nerves lol.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 01:00 AM
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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looks nice! what core are you guys using? Ebay? do you have dimensions?
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Core Size: 24x11x3 inch
Overall Size: 29x11x3 inch
Inlet and outlet sizes: 2.5 inch

quick results from stock vs. this one:

Increased lag, had to increase boost about 2-3psi to get same higher RPMs boost pressures, but it's manageable just drivability is compromised a tiny bit with an aftermarket turbo like mine. MAT reading in megatune went down several degrees while idling, on boost is extremely steady and doesn't spike like before which is the main reason I got the intercooler.

I recommend to get a smaller core if using the car as a daily driver like I am, nothing beats the short track of the stock system although it barely cools the air in hot weather, and is freaking hot where I live.
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Thanks, I think I'm back on the rotary wagon again....at one point I wasn't sure what I was going to do with my car. I keep looking to everyone on the forum for inspiration.

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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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100% stock
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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looks pretty sicklicious
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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Very nice, but thats a BIG core! What kind of numbers are you getting with that turbo set up?
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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its still 50% untuned unfortunately so it's actually slower than a boosted stock combo in my opinion, I haven't raced or really stepped on it yet, maybe a couple of fly bys next to a couple of 4G63Ts, but nothing to brag about. I know my old 12a felt faster than this

I was waiting on the intercooler setup to be installed to be able to tune it right. Now I have to wait for the Fan (taurus) as the CL temps went up. With the megasquirt logs I've been monitoring manifold air temp MAT and CL coolant temp for days and until I set those two in safe ranges I'm not going to tune the car for max power, right now is set pretty conservative.

I rebuilt this engine with a pretty agressive street port so I hope to get some decent numbers, I might have about 1500 or so bumper to bumper traffic miles on that engine. On a more serious note, I don't plan on racing the car nor dragging it, although Im temped. I actually want the car to last a long time.

BTW with megasquirt I managed to tune it to idle at 1000rpms with 550cc primaries and 1600cc in stage configuration very close to stock. The squirting info in this forum is excellent... and there is great help in that section, hopefully I'll be able to help others now.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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Very, very nice dude. Super clean, I love it.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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I LOL at cores that big, especially since air is only hitting the bottom fourth of it. Im using a small 20x9 core on a BNR stage 3 at 15psi.. intake temps never get above 20F of ambient, i actually wish i went smaller
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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you wana buy a daily driver?http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...6000&cardist=0

congrats on the setup. it looks badass.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gxl90rx7
I LOL at cores that big, especially since air is only hitting the bottom fourth of it. Im using a small 20x9 core on a BNR stage 3 at 15psi.. intake temps never get above 20F of ambient, i actually wish i went smaller
I agree 100%... too big, let me see how it goes after I tune it, my turbo has plenty of flow, but not sure if it will be enough. If I have to sell it for a smaller core I'll do it. I want the car to run good, not look good.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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Whats up man. We are NOT taking that bumper back off.



We'll get 'er straightened out Saturday we'll see what she can do.


BTW, I had to re-register, considering I signed up about a million years ago, I do not have my old email anymore & lost my password.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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Are those Lancer EVO wheels?
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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glad to see you here Espresso... welcome to the forum.

remember its a old bastard S4 series block (although it's nicely built by me) so it's weak, bolt ons can be great, but the engine itself can only take so much, Im telling u I would have rather left it with the stock turbo, "kick it up a notch" like Emeril would say and be done with it.

BTW the old owner had that turbo so I had to build around it, fuel, ign control, all the goodies so as to be somewhat safe.

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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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can you say sleeper? thats what im goin for
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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Dawwummmmm hahaha nice dude...looks the same!

what turbo? more pics please
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 06:09 AM
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looks sweet man! im gonna have trouble with mine cuz i wanna keep fogs, yikes!
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mperformance
Increased lag, had to increase boost about 2-3psi to get same higher RPMs boost pressures
The required boost increase is mostly due to the higher pressure drop, not so much the size. The pressure drop is dependant on the construction of the intercooler, and you pretty much get what you pay for. The plumbing (mostly the bends) will also affect the pressure drop, but you don't have many choices on how to construct the plumbing given the underhood layout and space restrictions.

The increased lag is due to two factors:
1. The larger volume (as you have already figured out)
2. The extra spool time required for the turbo to make up that extra 2-3psi.

Originally Posted by mperformance
on boost is extremely steady and doesn't spike like before which is the main reason I got the intercooler.
Gotta love the cold sink factor of a massive intercooler.

Originally Posted by gxl90rx7
I LOL at cores that big, especially since air is only hitting the bottom fourth of it. Im using a small 20x9 core on a BNR stage 3 at 15psi.. intake temps never get above 20F of ambient, i actually wish i went smaller
The air will take the path of least resistance. Once pressure builds up at the bottom of the core, more air will flow through the rest of the core. Besides, you can construct the end tanks with baffles if you are really concerned about the air getting through the entire height of the core. A taller core has more internal flow area, which will reduce pressure drop. A larger core also contributes to cold sink, which helps reduce the spikes as mentioned by mperformance.
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