totallimmortal

My car won't start and makes a metalic noise when i try to start it. when i looked up into the bellhousing through the little hole with a ruber plug in it at the bottom of the tranny i can move the ring gear. I'm guessing it seperated from the flywheel. i'm guessing but not sure that this needs a new flywheel. so am i right do i need a new flywheel and if so cna someone direct to me a reasonably priced lighter one?

RotaryEvolution

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the ring gear moves without the flywheel? is it an aftermarket flywheel? all the stock flywheels i have seen the gear is part of the flywheel so if it is moving then the flywheel would have to as well. if the flywheel turns without the e-shaft moving then your bolt may have come lose and your key may have become what it started out as, dust... in any case if the ring gear is turning and your e-shaft is not then you need to pull the transmission and see what is going on.

capn

you can replace the ring gear on stock flywheels its pressed into place and can just be banged off. then have a machine shop press the new one on

totallimmortal

what keeps the gear on? its seems that more than a snug fit would be needed to hold it in place when the torque from the started hits it, is it splined?

totallimmortal

bump

ddub

Looks to be one-piece, I can't see any way that it could come apart. Stock s4 fw:

scathcart

The ring gear is interference fit to the stock flywheel... you can easily remove it with a torch and a hammer. This applies to all stock flywheel's...

To install a new ring gear, you put the flywheel in the freezer and the ring gear in the oven. Some cheap aftermarket australian flywheels are shipped without the ring gear on them... can't remember the brand.

scathcart

Its just super tight.
I have seen this happen once before... this is extremely rare. Just replace it with a stock flywheel... they are cheap to find used, and I doubt you will ever experience the problem again.

ddub

Huh, learn somethin new every day.

Bob_The_Normal

Since it looks like you'll be replacing it, I'll shoot to answer that question...

I've heard really good things about the RB flywheel... if you go too light, you have to rev up pretty high to keep from stalling from a stop.

And I'm not sure how the installation goes with new flywheels and the counterweight... is the counterweight people talk about with a new flywheel the counterweight in the front cover? And does that mean you have to take off the whole oil pan, oil pump assembly and front cover to put on a new flywheel? That'd be a major PITA.

--Gary

WonkoTheSane

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Also OEM Mitsubishis come this way.



/bitter former-DSM owner

ddub

There is a counterweight in the front cover which is left alone. In the stock flywheel the counterweight is built in, but in aftermarket ones like RB it usually comes with the proper counterweight for your year car, or you can get one from an auto.

totallimmortal

so would you reccxomend i try to put the ring fear back on the flywheel with the freezer/ oven method or should i replace it? If i'm replacing it i think i'd miht as well go with the RB lightened steel

will i damage anything if i drive it? I'm stuck at a friends house now and figure it'll start with a bump start but i don't know if that'll mess anything up

Tofuball

If the ring gear is out, you wouldnt want it flying around when the engine started turning.

totallimmortal

well i went againts the advice and bump started and drove it and it felt find so i shifted into 2nd really hard and it made a really wierd noise. The wierd noise was the ring gear re seating itself guess my pressure plate is strong it starts fine now, i still plan on a lightwieght soon tho. we weighed exedy aluminum one today for a prelude and it weighed 8.4 lbs i think that way to light for me tho

ddub

RB Aluminum flywheel = awesome. With counterweight it's 12 lbs or something, without its like 9.5? Something like that. But I daily drive my car with the RB aluminum flywheel, no big deal. It took a few days to get used to, but once you got it down it's awesome.

totallimmortal

cool looks like i'll get an aluminum flywheel, i drove the car again and the ring came off again but after a few miles it re seated. ( I know cause i'd cut off the engine while cruising and try to start it and after almost 2 miles it was fine again) so i'll make do with this as long as i can and then get the rb aluminum. i know they make a clutch that fits a tii tranny and na flywheel for people using a tii tranny on an na but do they make this clutch in anything but 4 puck? i'm looking for a little more street friendly than that

ddub

They make a clutch for TII trannies while using an n/a flywheel? Who? Which clutch?


EDIT:

Found it on RB's site, that's ******* awesome! Now after I turbo my n/a if I break my tranny I have an option when changing to a TII tranny.

totallimmortal

yeah exactly i just found it on RB tonight too and thats why i can now consider getting a flywheel. I was really in a pickle since i can't afford a tii tranny now but i know i'm gonna get one so the na flywheel would otherwise be a waste. so looks like i'll be going for the same setup as you ddub, i just have to decide wether to turbo or supercharge, a few cars near me recently got pro charger kits and are all incredibly fast, and i'd like to have something different but turbo would be cheaper